Eurovision tracks
Music Meeting today, and the comments were:
Was this for old people?
Who voted for these?
We ended up with about five tracks which we'll play for a few days. None of the ballads made the cut. And the voting here was done by the Slovak team – kind of says it all really.
BTW the Russian track was described as being OK for a late night love type show, but we don't have one so it isn't getting played.
From: "tesug" <...>
We ended up with about five tracks which we'll play for a few days. None
of the ballads made the cut. And the voting here was done by the Slovak
team – kind of says it all really.
I can't believe you are playing any of them Eric.
Eric Tesug <...> said:
BTW the Russian track was described as being OK for a late night love
type show...
Either that or something to listen to whilst playing Russian Roulette. I'm resisting to comment on the EuroWorldUniverse Competition but I will anyway, as I feel it my duty. Its a total farce! The music resembles those old 'Top Of The Pops' Albums from Ronco and that typical Euro Beat (Domp de Domp de) the Greeks, Bulgarians, Russians and all the other eastern bloc countries use in every song they produce is enough for me to put my foot through the television. Unfortantely I've not long paid out short of a grand on the TV to keep er in doors happy so booting the screen in wasn't an option.
How many countries actually made the finals that we're actually 'In Europe'?
Terry Wogan said the right thing, it's all politics and the for ever, 'Hate England' message coming through.
Simple fact is, how many of these so called wonderfull 'winning' songs will be remembered like the likes of Abba and Bucks Fizz that still get caned at weddings, parties and the likes?
Eurovision has turned into a politcal game supported by those with as much musical taste as listening too turd travel down a sewer. It's obvious the Finns won last year as they totally took the urine out of the whole 'Euro-Vis' malarky although some countries thought it was totally serious man!
Still, the TV presentation is a good laugh if you're contemplating slashing your rists because it'll just give you more courage to get on with the job.
Da Guff on Da 'Domp De Domp De' Euro-Planet -Universe -Vison World Order Competition
Eric Tesug <...> said:
BTW the Russian track was described as being OK for a late night love
type show...
Either that or something to listen to whilst playing Russian Roulette. I'm resisting to comment on the EuroWorldUniverse Competition but I will anyway, as I feel it my duty. Its a total farce! The music resembles those old 'Top Of The Pops' Albums from Ronco and that typical Euro Beat (Domp de Domp de) the Greeks, Bulgarians, Russians and all the other eastern bloc countries use in every song they produce is enough for me to put my foot through the television. Unfortantely I've not long paid out short of a grand on the TV to keep er in doors happy so booting the screen in wasn't an option.
How many countries actually made the finals that we're actually 'In Europe'?
Terry Wogan said the right thing, it's all politics and the for ever, 'Hate England' message coming through.
Simple fact is, how many of these so called wonderfull 'winning' songs will be remembered like the likes of Abba and Bucks Fizz that still get caned at weddings, parties and the likes?
Eurovision has turned into a politcal game supported by those with as much musical taste as listening too turd travel down a sewer. It's obvious the Finns won last year as they totally took the urine out of the whole 'Euro-Vis' malarky although some countries thought it was totally serious man!
Still, the TV presentation is a good laugh if you're contemplating slashing your rists because it'll just give you more courage to get on with the job.
Da Guff on Da 'Domp De Domp De' Euro-Planet -Universe -Vison World Order Competition
In article <2727d173b274f8fb5c7e69a6d6154a18@jiglu-wc>, ... (RC Guff) wrote:
Simple fact is, how many of these so called wonderfull 'winning'
songs will be remembered like the likes of Abba and Bucks Fizz that
still get caned at weddings, parties and the likes?
That's probably due to younger people being involved then and most are now old and still think Ronco make good LPS
And I think most were part of the European shelf apart from Israel, though I'm probably wrong and will be told rapidly :-)
Still, the TV presentation is a good laugh
Totally
In article <...>, ... (Steve Martin) wrote:
I can't believe you are playing any of them Eric.
They're only there for this week as talking points and why not, it's a fun Euro-story.
I even suggested to the news team that they should include the fact that the UK came last. Again why not?
Truth is the whole thing has been all over the news in central-Europe and it's hard to describe the stance. It's not always taking the XXXXX but very close. One journo picked up on the fact that UK pays to be in the show, well not quite right but in the right direction :-) I think it's nearly £200K, if I recall.
Well at least it's got people talking about music again rather than talking about how not to talk when playing tracks that there is positively no interest in :-)
Eric
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Perhaps the better definition of Europe (excluding Israel) are the member states of the Council of Europe:
Upon foundation on 1949-05-05 there were ten members:
Subsequent members by date of admission:
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Alan Milewczyk <...> said:
Re: Eurovision tracksFrom memory, all barring Israel, Armenia and Azerbaijan. I think the criterion for entry is being a member of the EBU, the European Broadcasting Union – well it used to be, anyway.
I suspect you need a Geography lesson to bring yourself up-to-date with developments since 1989.
Ooooo errrrr. I'm talking about countries that are on the Continent of Europe, not the ones extending out of the continent. I'm quite aware of what countries are in Europe, not only the ones that want to be thanks Allan.
Your opinion on what's good music in the EuroWorld Comp is fine, as are my views, I just think the whole shabang is a laughing joke, always have done. Its just as well some countries have a sense of humour, as some take it all far too seriously. If you can't see the political message behind the new style Eurovision, then maybe you should brush up on your politics and I'll study the fantasy league New Map of Europe.
Quoting a previous tesug contribution:-
We ended up with about five tracks which we'll play for a few days. None
of the ballads made the cut. And the voting here was done by the Slovak
team – kind of says it all really.
Surely you should have been playing a goodly selection of them well before the contest anyway? Especially the songs of your neighbouring states and countries that Slovakia would have voted for, had it have been part of it.
Aren't there also rumours that you'll be entering it next year? Well, not 'you' of course, 'cos I'm not suggesting the entry will be performed by your good self, but your country. Speaking of countries, how on earth is Israel allowed to take part? With the biggest stretch of the imagination, I just can't see Israel as part of Europe!
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* Christopher England just said that *
In article <C0993BA249B94667B1D2BCF1F0021CF4@video2>, ... (Alan Milewczyk) wrote:
Hi Alan
How many of those winners listed above do YOU remember? Ask the
same question on the continent and it's a totally different story.
Not so Alan, in our very unscientific debate/research today. Folks I work with had never heard of the earlier winners and really Abba was the first ray of light.
The only Eurovision oldies you hear in the UK are those sung by
British artists, Abba being the only exception. There is a world
beyond the English Channel, but you wouldn't think it, listening to
UK radio.
To be honest Alan most of those tracks I've never heard since I've been in Slovakia so not quite sure if that stacks up everywhere. I can tell others such as Congratulations are played at weddings, no change there then :-)
Most countries on the continent would put forward their very best
songwriters and it was a very prestigious event to win. I'm afraid
Britain has been half-hearted about Eurovision most of the time
with its "if it's not sung in English, we don't want to know"
Little Englander mentality.
Sorry, don't buy that so much. A lot of really good song writers are unlikely to get on the TV channels that would run Eurovision.
And again ask young musicians what they want – if I shared here I'll get silly comments, but safe to say those now singing in English are doing really well in Germany, USA, Poland and other places – GOOD LUCK I say to those younger people who want to be winners, never hear them in Eurovision though
Things have moved on and this year, while I haven't yet played back
the two semi-finals I can't think of too many tracks in the final
that had a good melodic hook.
As I said before, we went through them all today and the Slovak people at this radio station really were not interested in any of the tracks that much.
What bemused me on Saturday was hearing Wogan castigating the
countries that voted "en pact", yet berating the countries that
didn't award us points on the same principle. With over 40
countries participating, the odds lengthen on any one country
getting that first prize, but, of course, we don't like that.
I have never understood that complaint anyway Alan. Eurovision is mainly older people playing more traditional styles. Scandinavian countries would prefer more traditional styles – yes I know there were some exceptions. However, more old-foggy stuff is best described as ballads and when the TV channels that are producing the winners are often, er erm, viewed by older people it will produce the music you get for Eurovision – makes sense.
Now if you want a true Eurovision, place the country contests in the hands of the state broadcasters who have young listeners – the change would be dramatic!!
One of the state radio stations here would certainly give R1 a run for it's money, it's a really great station – same goes for other countries I visit.
The UK entry tries to keep R2 listeners and the viewers of BBC1 – DOH! The alternative would be to have a young and old Eurovision.
BTW, I was honoured to be a judge at the Young Eurovision later last year and if that is what Eurovision is to become it won't be long before some really good music appears again.
Eric
In article <...>, ... (Christopher England) wrote:
Surely you should have been playing a goodly selection of them well
before the contest anyway? Especially the songs of your
neighbouring states and countries that Slovakia would have voted
for, had it have been part of it.
Not really, wasn't a cry to hear them and as I said we struggled to find tracks we could play.
Aren't there also rumours that you'll be entering it next year?
Well, not 'you' of course, 'cos I'm not suggesting the entry will
be performed by your good self, but your country.
Like other countries there is a mix of traditional and young talent. The young talent struggles to get on air – well not so much with us they don't.
Yes there are people pushing for Slovakia to join in, but the outcome would be very much dependant on which TV channel was involved. Talking extremes, one channel would produce a winner more like the material this year and if another TV channel was involved it would produce great music that would sell well and probably fail in Eurovision.
As I said to Alan, the teen-generation are about to get on stage and when they do it'll be great for Eurovision!!!
Good tune and nice vid http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=58668
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And we broke these guys on the radio
The Israel Broadcasting Authority joined the EBU in 1957, (causing Syria and Egypt to resign apparently). So we participate in Eurovision on that basis.
Geographically the country lies between Europe, Asia and Africa, but culturally is probably closest to Europe.
T.
Quoting a previous Tim Scrimshaw contribution:-
The Israel Broadcasting Authority joined the EBU in 1957, (causing Syria
and Egypt to resign apparently). So we participate in Eurovision on that
basis.
Nah. Don't get it. What were Syria and Egypt doing in the EBU? I'm guessing this dates back to a time when it was 'convenient'.
We definitely need to start kicking countries out until we (the UK) are in with a chance again. That seems to me to be the only way forward for the Eurovision Song Contest. Either that or we need a major consensus to take the pee out of it all. Kudos to Ireland for their sterling effort. Such a shame they were knocked out before the final.
None of it is really my kinda thing these days. So, I watched nothing. Haven't for years. However, were there more singing puppets and it became a contest of self-ridicule then I'd be back watching it and enjoying it.
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>> However, were there more singing puppets and it became a contest of self-ridicule then I'd be back watching it and enjoying it.
Like a Puppet On A String, ya mean?
T.
"Active membership of the EBU is open to broadcasting organizations or groups of such organizations from:
a member country of the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) situated in the European Broadcasting Area as defined by the Radio Regulations annexed to the International Telecommunication Convention, or a member country of the Council of Europe which is situated outside the European Broadcasting Area"
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