Tuesday, 16 September 2008
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Christopher England wrote:
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: London has a goodly generous helping
: of pirate stations (compared to you Northern whimps who have nothing)
but I thought you were going to check out MAR on 105FM while you were oop North here?
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Christopher England said:
Aha. A doubter on the radio on your mobile front, eh? I wonder who here on Anorak Nation used to argue that radio via 3G was plausible. It was probably one of life's greater visionaries. A man who deserves to be applauded for his views. Who was he again?
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Chris
I don't think anyone doubted radio could be used on a mobile phone, the debate was how successful would or could it be. You have to admit as far as gadgets go you are an Anorak, not everyone is like that, I have used my mobile once for listening to the radio and about three times for a few MP3 tracks I uploaded.
Anyway a big majority will never keep changing and updating their model of mobile phone, wizz kids, but they don't listen to radio in big numbers do they? I would like WiFi so badly, it would be ideal with my love for American radio, but it is not a priority, I am sure that is the case with the latest mobile phone for radio.
John
Here in Israel, only the state broadcasters (Kol Israel – Voice of Israel and Galei Tzahal – Army Radio) still use AM, simulcasting their main FM channels. There are no commercial stations on AM. The Voice of Peace and Arutz 7 vacated their frequencies many years ago.
AM does have it's uses though – some of the more remote desert areas are sparsely populated and FM relays would be an overkill, so AM fills the gap. Also Channel D, Kol Israel's Arabic language service, uses high-power AM, the aim being to show a more positive image of Israel to the Arabic-speaking neighbours.
There is a tender out to build infrastructure for DAB, but nobody seems interested in bidding for it – and there isn't a whole lot of interest from the content providers – existing state and commercial stations. I've a hunch that Israel might skip that particular technological development. Satellite delivery a la Sirius doesn't seem to be on the cards yet either. People already use their mobiles for streaming radio, and wifi radios are becoming readily available.
T.
In article <48...>, ... (Tim Scrimshaw) wrote:
AM does have it's uses though _ some of the more remote desert
areas are sparsely populated and FM relays would be an overkill, so
AM fills the gap. Also Channel D, Kol Israel's Arabic language
service, uses high-power AM, the aim being to show a more positive
image of Israel to the Arabic-speaking neighbours.
In terms of remote areas I would agree, there is a danger is such debates to think a solution in one region is a solution globally. It isn't!
For some regions even HF is still a good tool, especially if you are a state broadcaster and want to reach villages in the middle of, say, Africa. However, if we are honest the notion that real consumers listen to HF in Europe is a joke – well with the exception of someone who wants to sponsor an HF show who actually sells HF kit.
There is a tender out to build infrastructure for DAB, but nobody
seems interested in bidding for it _ and there isn't a whole lot of
interest from the content providers _ existing state and commercial
stations. I've a hunch that Israel might skip that particular
technological development. Satellite delivery a la Sirius doesn't
seem to be on the cards yet either. People already use their
mobiles for streaming radio, and wifi radios are becoming readily
available.
Actually you have highlighted a danger for the DAB boys – if they don't watch out those frequencies will become of little value as other platforms become the norm for listening to radio. Returning to regions/areas, some place would consider satellite as old technology with mobiles and wi-fi radio being the present norm.
A colleague from another company proudly told me the other day he was so pleased to see wi-fi radios, "The ones you were talking about Eric", in Prague the other day. He added it's so cool because you can be in all the major cities around the world and listen to Slovak radio. Nuff said?
Eric
In article <78ead1416385ac936c06c0d5f4e60f91@jiglu-wc>, ... (Jay BS) wrote:
I don't think anyone doubted radio could be used on a mobile phone,
the debate was how successful would or could it be. You have to
admit as far as gadgets go you are an Anorak, not everyone is like
that, I have used my mobile once for listening to the radio and
about three times for a few MP3 tracks I uploaded.
Hi John
That's a similar debate to that which music managers have, I'm sure. A good MM makes the music for the listeners not there own taste. The same applies to listening habits. I think, as anoraks, we need to look outside our circle(s) and check that which others are doing.
Less and less people have three or four devices and as such the mobile phone has become a music centre.
Anyway a big majority will never keep changing and updating their
model of mobile phone, wizz kids, but they don't listen to radio in
big numbers do they? I would like WiFi so badly, it would be ideal
with my love for American radio, but it is not a priority, I am
sure that is the case with the latest mobile phone for radio.
I think that info would send shockwaves through the mobile manufacturing market. The total penetration of mobiles per person in the UK has been very high for a considerable period of time – what's more sales of new handsets has continued. The amount of people that drop phones down the toilet or leave them on buses is much lower than new handsets being made and sold.
I do understand you comment about wi-fi and priorities – remember I moved to an area when getting an net connection a while a go was terrible. Today people are pouring onto the net, they get the same deals as the UK with a contract being tied to a new phone or free laptop. The under 40's are the biggest growth markets, they also like designer labels for some strange reason. And those folks are the ad-agencies dream of listeners.
What I do find interesting is in an age where many will say home working is on the up-and-up, why there is a bigger need to be portable. However, there is. Funny ol' world.
Eric
What will kill radio over 3G is the Telco's charging for data usage – it's way too expensive right now – a great technology and it's here right now (or coming very soon) but greedy Telco's will roadblock it from consumers because of very expensive data usage rates.
At least that's the case in Au – What's the situation for data usage costs in the UK?
Here is an example of a start up called STRIPE
Stripe service streams at 48 kbps or the equivalent to 25 MB per hour.
What is Stripe ?
Stripe is a service offering over 20 channels of radio featuring digital-quality music, sports, news and entertainment programming when and where you want it. We use the Australian 3G network to broadcast over 20 channels of digital radio to listeners throughout Australia. Stripe delivers the best 100% commercial-free music in virtually every genre.
In article <ac33190bbd8ee762ec5397fe93266834@jiglu-wc>, ... (Christopher England) wrote:
Eric Tesug <...> said:
When was your favourite period of three years?>
It changes year on year.
Here's one for yer. Well, for everybody really. If you could go
back and spend 6 months somehow involved in a particular anoraky
radio era, what date would you go back to and why?
Heck that's so hard. Can I ask the audience?
David * wrote:
During the day and at night I don't usually listen to the radio –
however I do listen to various podcasts and also watch ABC Catch Up TV (iView) from time to time.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/iview/ <
Shame its geo-locked to viewers outside Australia, I was hoping to catch up on 'In The Night Garden' :o)
Andy
Christopher England <...> said:
Sterling Times <2@slewis.biz> said:
I am very interested in voice recognition for computers (no key board no
mouse – at home).So, did you 'talk' that contribution to Anorak Nation? How reliable is whatever you are using?
On the non-computer front, I extensively used www.dial2do.com as a quick way of sending texts. (Once signed up, you call a London number and 'dictate' a text using your voice. It then gets delivered to your desired recipient as a text.) However, it can be quite hilarious reading what it thinks it's heard me say.
I achieve 99+% accuracy with speech recognition, but one has to be a speech recognition geek to achieve excellent results.
I use Dragon Naturally Speaking v.10 with Knowbrainer 2008 Command software. The quality of the microphone and "sound card" are very important. Forget HI-FI, this is about a flat getting response with low noise. The program rapidly learns from it mistakes.
I like to set my screen to a large type face, sit back in my chair and view the screen from at least a metre away.
I think that a technological leap is required before this becomes a mainstream product. Having said that, some people with disabilities are already totally dependent upon it.
Global radio has made a major announcement about major changes to a number of their stations on the UK. 28 of their local and county wide stations are to be re-branded 'Heart'. Many well known names including Invicta FM , Essex FM ,Chiltern FM , and GWR Bristol will become Heart within 18 months.This is apparently to make selling advertising space easier across a national brand and so the brand becomes well known across large areas of the country to improve awareness.The local outlets will only produce their own breakfast and drivetime shows , the rest will be syndicated over the network. Global radio clearly has little regard for the local identity of these stations and yet more networking of programs cannot be good for listener choice.We are all aware of the bringing together of trade both nationally and internationally but surely this is a step to far! Can it really be true that a local radio station is considered too small to market to advertisers and a listening audience ? Is big the only way to make stations viable or can small survive in the modern age ? Story source , Waveguide.
