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The channel was completely clear here in Birmingham after the closure of Red Sands Radio. Now there is a weak Islamic station on this frequency. What is the station?

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Great name for a hosipital radio station.

The signal is very readable 30 miles from the tx.

I'm not sure whether is it on 1350 kHz because it is splattered by Coventry's local radio station, but I get optimised reception on 1350 kHz.

What power are these station running?

The students at Warwick University seem to have lost interest in their station. Even during term time a blank carrier is transmitted on 1251 kHz.

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http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr08/

When you read it, which you should, there will be smiles on the faces of Chris and Alan :-)

Regards
Eric

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A young DJ who "pays to play" is now an exploited victim rather than a criminal (according to OFCOM).

Because I'm studying law at present, I'll include the definition of "accessory":

An accessory is a person who assists in the commission of a crime, but who does not actually participate in the commission of the crime as a joint principal. The distinction between an accessory and a principal is a question of fact and degree:

  • The principal is the one whose acts or omissions, accompanied by the relevant mens rea, are the most immediate cause of the actus reus (Latin for "guilty act").
  • If two or more people are directly responsible for the actus reus, they can be charged as joint principals (see common purpose). The test to distinguish a joint principal from an accessory is whether the defendant independently contributed to causing the actus reus rather than merely giving generalised and/or limited help and encouragement.

 

 

 

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/illegalbroadcast/factsheet.pdf

Illegal broadcasting is a criminal and anti-social
activity and station operations are a menace to
legitimate broadcasters and the public alike. In
addition they may: ... raise cash from illegal advertising (usually
for local nightclub events) or by exploiting
young DJs who have to ‘pay to play’ to get
on-air;

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Eric Tesug <(Address removed)> said:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr08/

When you read it, which you should, there will be smiles on the faces of
Chris and Alan :-)

Regards
Eric

Many of these claimed successes will be reversed by the recession that is now with us and which our socialist masters have so far denied.

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From: "Sterling Times" <2@slewis.biz>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:56 AM
To: "Anorak Nation" <(Address removed)>
Subject: [Anorak Nation] Islamic wailing on 1278 kHz

The channel was completely clear here in Birmingham after the closure of
Red Sands Radio. Now there is a weak Islamic station on this frequency.
What is the station?

1278 kHz
AGL – Emissora Provincial de Cabinda, Tenda (25) – 24h
BLR – Belaruskaye Radio 1, Zadvarcy (Brest) (2.5) – 0400–2300 exc. regional programming by Radio Stalitsa (= Radio Capital) at 0440–0500 (Mo-Sa) and
1600–1700 daily in Belarussian
EGY – Egyptian Radio, Asswan (10) – 0300–2400
F – France Bleu/France Bleu Elsass, Sélestat (<300) – 24h; France Bleu Elsass: 0600–1130 & 1330–1600 (Mo-Fr) in Alsatian; France Bleu: "General" radio with popular, adult programmes with daily life related information and entertainment
G – Pulse Gold, Tyersal Lane (Bradford) (0.430) – 24h //1170//1530 exc. local px 1400–1800; classic and contemporary hits with local, national and international sport
G – Palace Radio (RSL), Crystal Palace (0.001) – only on football days
G – Trust AM, Worksop (LPAM) (0.001) – Hospital radio station; 24h; ID "More variety – Trust 1278 MW"
G – BFBS Nepali Service, Folkestone (LPAM) (0.001) – px in Nepali language for the Gurkha based at Sir John Moore Barracks, also some px in Gurkha language and English BFBS px; English news at 1000
G – BFBS Gurkha Radio, Shorncliffe (LPAM) (0.001)
G – Blue Bull Radio, Norfolk (LPAM) (0.001) – station of RAF Marham Kings Lynn
G – Crush Radio, Hatfield (LPAM) (0.001) – Student radio station
G – Harlow Hospital Radio, Harlow (LPAM) (0.001) – Hospital radio station G – Pinesbury AM 1278, Swindon (LPAM) (0.001) – Student radio station
G – Radio Royal, Falkirk (LPAM) (0.001) – Hospital radio station; 24 h with continuous pop and oldies when not carrying live programming
GRC – NET (1st px)/ERA 2/ERA SPORT + ERA Flórina, Flórina (10) – ERA Flórina: 0500–1100 (Mo-Fr), 1330–1800 (Mo-Fr); NET: news px; ERA 2: music px IRL – Choice FM, Dublin (?)
IRN – IRIB 1, Kermanshah (200) – 24h
MDG – Radio Television Malagasy, ? (1) – Mo-Fr 0200–1900, Sa-Su 0300–2100; all in Malagasy
RUS – Radio Rossii, Dubovka (50) – 0300–2200; also other tx sites but no exact info on their activity is known; music and other programmes for the younger generation
UKR – Voice of Russia, Petrivka (50)

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From: "Sterling Times" <2@slewis.biz>

Great name for a hosipital radio station.

The signal is very readable 30 miles from the tx.

I'm not sure whether is it on 1350 kHz because it is splattered by
Coventry's local radio station, but I get optimised reception on 1350
kHz.

What power are these station running?

Allegedly 1 watt!

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Thanks Eric
 
I'd never heard the Gary Byrd track but having heard a 30 second clip on allmusic.com I can quite safely say, if I don't hear it again in my lifetime it won't be a moment too soon. /reaches for the zap button! You mention "noise", well when punk hit that was the first time I found myself sounding like my dad - I loathed it with a passion and still do, the whole thing, from the music to the attitude. The other main contender for the noise "Crown" (pun unintended!) is rap - seems to me the only thing missing in the description is the C in front of the word!
 
As to content, yes I recognise that your standpoint may be as a broadcaster, mine is a purely selfish one, as a listener. What I was getting at, was that there are surely two aspects to Eric, the radio professional and the individual - forget the radio professional what does the individual think? Enya, yes, a truly original performer with a beautiful totally unique sound - love her material, but wouldn't consider it to be ballad. Ballads would be the material sung by artists such as Dusty, Gene Piney, Roy Orbison as well as the artists we;ve already discussed. I'm struggling for a pigeonhole to describe her material but mood or atmospheric are two inadequate words that spring to mind. Regarding ABBA, last night I went to the pictures to see the screening of the digitally remastered "Abba: the Movie" - seeing that and "Mamma Mia!" a few weeks ago makes me regret never having seen them live even more. True giants in the history of popular music.
 
As regards your experiences with different types of listener, I obviously don't fit the boxes, but then that's the story of my life!;-) I don't go for speech radio, I don't mind a bit of chat to link music, but it has to be intelligent and/or funny - to give examples of broadcasters that do it for me or did in the past, include Johnnie Walker, Roger Day, Rosko and the loveable genius Kenny Everett. People who DON'T do it for me are Jonathon Ross and Chris Evans. I adore Suzie Q - I was never a big fan of her music, apart from "If you can't give me love" - but she is a real gem. She is knowledgeable, intelligent, articulate and fun and those characteristics transmit themselves in her shows, especially her Heroes series where she interviews artists that she grew up with. She is ten months younger than me so we are contemporaries, except her growing up was in Detroit, through doo wop, R&B and early soul, through the Motown explosion. I just love her to bits and I'm not surprised when you say she's a very nice person to talk to. I only latched onto her radio shows a year or two back, but her programmes are now one of my listening highlights of the week.
 
Certainly agree that the net is the home of free radio - it's the one part of the broadcasting sphere that meets my needs continually, unlike most of mainstream broadcasting. As for BBC radio, I've said it countless times, Radio 2 is pandering to the 40-somethings and further isolating those of us who are 50-plus. If I feel there is not enough late 50s and early to mid-60s music on the radio, then spare a thought for those currently in their mid to late 60s onwards, those who were pre-rock n roll. Not much for them too. I tend to think the programming given an ideal unlimited scenario would be:
 
Radio 1 can't comment
Radio 1.5 for the 40 somethings
Radio 2 for the 50 somethings
Radio 2.5 for the 65-plus
 
I'm staggered why advertisers don't feel they can make radio to my age group to be a viable commercial proposition. We are the biggest demographic group (I mean the baby boomers) and most of us have disposable income with kids grown up and mortgages paid off in a lot of cases. I'm open to properly targetted advertising but maybe the kids at the advertising groups haven't made the effort to understand what we're all about. A bit ironic as when I was  a kid I was saying "my parents don't understand me" now I'm older I'm saying "the kids don't understand me" Ha!
 
On that note, must grease my wheelchair!;-) Toodle-pip!
 
 
Alan
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Alan Milewczyk aka The Pole with Soul
Soul pix on the net at http://www.soulman1949.com
 
----- Original Message -----
From: tesug
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] Tests from uklightradio.co.uk

of hearing Elvis' "Heartbreak Hotel" for the very first time. It
remains for me, one of the most seismic jolts in the history of
Popular music.

Interesting, if I had to do instant recall like that it would be the Power-Play on 208. You Wear The Crown – Gary Byrd, amazing track.

to be used in 2008? We have locked antlers on this subject before
and will continue to do so

I sincerely hope so as what would the world be if were can't debate views?

do – you are a radio professional but that doesn't make your
opinion any more valid than mine. If you are happier with more
modern music or today's music even, good luck to you, you will
never hear me saying you shouldn't be. All I am saying is that it's
not for me. But please, no more inference that yours is the right
way or the only way! Or that my way is somehow not the right way!

I think we are coming at the above area from differing sides. I have to consider the audience and what works for them. I spend as much time as possible watching people listening to the radio and making adjustments. The age range is from 17 to 71, seriously. It is interesting to see how older people love the talking bits and encourage more of them. The younger age groups will be attracted to both elements – music and speech.

no-one had the balls to take that idea and make it work. By and
large, what I've heard of modern music just doesn't connect with me
one iota, I'm quite simply not interested in listening to it.

Hey, I've never said you can't hold that view! I still maintain there are huge numbers of people, all ages, that can and do connect with, often, 4 decades of music.

Thanks to the net I am able to enjoy "new" (to me) music from my
favourite eras –

Hey – how long have we both been banging on about that. The net gives greater opportunities to air different ranges of radio content, which makes the Net the Free Radio of 2008. Great tool.

Turning to the tracks you mention, personally Humph's "Last waltz"
(which a couple of weeks after the the MOA) wasn't my cuppa tea but
I don't despise it.

I don't despise hardly any music – well apart from that time called NOISE which was once aired on the Last Night of The Proms, thank goodness it appears to have been buried for ever.

Vikki Carr – great ballad,
very well sung (as was another in the same vein, Anita Harris'
"Just loving you"), but then you don't like ballads, do you?

Actually, you would be wrong there. I will often play the outstanding Enya! I can't think of enough positive words to describe my feelings for ALL of her tracks.

I recall Anita Harris being promoted, sorry launched, via the Billy Cotton Band show – she is a good stage/chorus singer. Not an entertainer with the power to attract me. And I am being very serious in that if my life depended on it Vicki Carr would just be a name to me.

was THE favourite genre for me, but it didn't stop me really
enjoying material such as Edison Lighthouse as we moved into a new
decade!

Most of which lead me to remembering how Roy Litchfield and I would have the same debates during QEFM days :-) You and Roy have very similar tastes in music I feel – I would call them MOR mainly.

If we move the clock on a tad, in the 70s I liked artists such as
Neil Diamond, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, the Doobie Brothers, the
Philly Sound, Rod Stewart and the Eagles (whom I discovered through
Tony Allan playing them on Radio Caroline, along with Jackson
Browne). Abba were musically the ultimate – no band has ever
surpassed their harmonies, their sheer sense of melody and the
incredible production – if pushed to quote my favourite song ever,
ever, ever, then it would have to be "Dancing Queen" – sheer
perfection.

I would venture to say Abba were pop perfection – crossed all boundaries, few have done that.
Have to congratulate Neil Diamond for his recent concerts. I had to watch to see if he could still hit the high notes, he did.

The Eighties brought Tina Turner, Eurythmics/Annie
Lennox, Alison Moyet (what a voice).

A clear picture of that which you like – Agreed ALF did have a great voice. As does Tina (but have to say Simply The Best is the only track I would play by choice).

specialist stuff like Brian Matthew, Suzi Quatro (she is a radio
GEM) and Johnnie Walker. Last time I listened to the radio in any
amount was a year ago to Pirate BBC Essex.

Suzi is an outstanding radio talent, and a VERY NICE person to chat with.

It is sad that there are no services to suit you. It reminds me of the news item when Bruce F was talking about the late Sir Billy Cotton. Bruce commented that Sir Bill understood what audiences needed and gave that to them – I was left wondering how Sir Bill would have viewed the boss of the BBC sitting for hours in front of Parliament and/or having to do all sort of crazy paperwork rather than focusing on programming.

More specifically, there was once mentioned that there should be a kind of Radio one and a half – I think that is now Radio Two apart from some of the specialist shows you like. If there had not been a radio three I would have made one and continued down the musical track which inspires you to listen to the radio. Kind of like the old Radio Two but time shifted to earlier music to suit as your radio group is no longer tiny. It's actually quite large and growing – problem being the only people who can serve such a market are state broadcasters.
Come to think of it, the Slovak State broadcaster does quite a good job of serving wide groups via different services. If there was nothing else in SK to listen to I would tune into RadioFM (yes very close to my views). Interestingly it does now appear to follow a more power-gold format at the weekends, hmmmmmmm wonder where they got that idea from.
And before you ask, I do know why it's hard for commercial station to air content for you – the simple answer is people don't think you are warm to commercials. I still think that's daft, but I have to balance making radio with paying the staff!

So that's it, except one question... what the heck is Plinkety
Plink?

All I can say it was a phrase we picked up in the 1960's so thought it was apt. I have a vague feeling it came from Juke Box Jury and Mickey Most is creeping through the haze. The track he was commenting on I can't recall. But safe to say if I could remember it would probably be one of the Anita Harris type tracks so I'll shut up now :-)

Thanks for a good debate

Regards
Eric

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/14/twitter_goes_silent/

 

Twitter has stopped sending SMS updates to UK customers, thus leaving them unaware of the latest important updates on what their friends had for breakfast.

Twitter is a service for bloggers who can't string a sentence together and who want to appeal to readers who can't focus beyond a headline. Updates can be sent in over SMS message, limited to 140 characters, and are bounced out to interested parties.

The problem, for Twitter, is that sending SMS messages is an expensive business in Europe, even when they are purchased in bulk, and if an incoming message is bounced out to 10 "friends" then Twitter has to pay to send those ten messages. But while in Europe the sender has to pay the full cost of message delivery, as getting messages is free, in the USA received messages are deducted from the tariff bundle, so Twitter can continue to offer the service there. Back in Blighty, however, it's just too expensive.

The company reckons that even with a cap of 250 messages it could cost them $1K a year per punter, and given their complete lack of revenue that's hard to maintain. Those Twittering in the USA, Canada and India will still be able to have their day interrupted by the random ramblings of others.

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Steve Martin <(Address removed)> said:


From: "Sterling Times" <2@slewis.biz>

 

Great name for a hosipital radio station.

The signal is very readable 30 miles from the tx.

I'm not sure whether is it on 1350 kHz because it is splattered by
Coventry's local radio station, but I get optimised reception on 1350
kHz.

What power are these station running?

Allegedly 1 watt!

You are looking at around 100 watts from their TX to achieve 1 watt EMRP or is it EIRP?

There is probably a 3db difference!

And people say our antenna isn't effiecent (we only run 20 watts!)!

I won't hear it here anyway as there are at least 2 users on that freq that are in my range, not that I am the service area of either of course!

Dave

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Allegedly 1 watt!

You are looking at around 100 watts from their TX to achieve 1 watt EMRP or is it EIRP?

Dave, what do they use for aerials?

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No doubt some of you have recieved this,

"Clive here - I'm one of the new team in charge of Virgin Radio.
Geoff and Christian, our very own Tony Hadley in the '80s, and Noah And The Whale in session at One Golden SquareAnd what a great station to inherit.

As you may know, we have some exciting plans. My goal is to keep everything that's great - and, where we can, to do more of those things - and do them even better. And try a few new things too.

We know from your response, for example, that you like the fact that our music is, well, proper music - from real composers and musicians. That's a hallmark of what we do and we're not going to touch the style of music we play - although there's probably a case for even more variety like we started to do on
'I Haven't Heard It For Ages'. We know that the '80s is a very popular decade. We know that you love many of the presenters and, for some listeners, life really would not be quite the same without Christian or Geoff. The Zoo Sessions are always well received - and, frankly, I'd like us to be doing more in that whole area of live performance. In short, though, it's the spirit of this station which makes it special - and we hope that we can build on that character rather than take anything away.

And, yes, there'll be a new name over the door and for the station on-air. As a VIP listener, we'll make sure you are amongst the first to know the name - and all the new stuff as it happens.

I'm really keen to hear from you now - and also along the journey - as this unfolds over the next few months. Your thoughts are really useful. In fact, if you're really interested - do check out our staff blog at onegoldensquare.com, where you can peer under the bonnet and eavesdrop (and take part in) some of our internal debate on where we go next.

Thanks for listening, logging on, calling in, texting us, emailing us - and for your loyalty over the years. Appreciated.

Clive Dickens "

Dave (I don't know where the pics came from!) Martin

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tesug wrote:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr08/

When you read it, which you should,

Or if you can't be bothered, read The Register's amusing take on this self-puffery:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/14/ofcom_annual_report_zzzz/

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Sterling Times <2@slewis.biz> said:

Allegedly 1 watt!

You are looking at around 100 watts from their TX to achieve 1 watt EMRP or is it EIRP?

Dave, what do they use for aerials?

If memory serves me right, no more than a 10 metre vertical with top loading, there are a few commercial options out there but some make their own, I was going to direct you to a couple of instances, notably Stoke Mandaville Hospital radio and L&DHR but they both seem to have updated their sites and removed the interesting (to us) technical stuff! So You will have to google a bit.

Dave

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From: Andy Burnham [mailto:(Address removed)]
Sent: 14 August 2008 21:15
To: (Address removed)
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] New Info from Ofcom

tesug wrote:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr08/

When you read it, which you should,

Or if you can't be bothered, read The Register's amusing take on this self-puffery:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/14/ofcom_annual_report_zzzz/

Free thought + Free speech + Free radio = Anorak Nation

www.jigluhood.com – communities that think for themselves

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Well, - after moving the Pirate Radio Night on Chnl 186 / RED, back half an hour - we were treated to the Radio London Story, The Radio England Story, The Radio Forts, A look at Radio Caroline circa 1964/5, A day in the Life of Caroline (1984), and the Charlie Wolf - Laser Video....Not a bad selection, but it's as if Radio Scotland and 270 never existed! ..... 8 out of 10 - Must try harder! 
Naturally, there were a number of plugs for these products on Radio Fab, which I've no doubt won't please one or two people, but if there is a flood of orders to said website - perhaps we might get another Pirate Radio Night in the near future!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] PIRATE RADIO NIGHT



Have just checked this and it is mentioned now - must have been late with the listings
 
The appalling Pop Quiz is on from 4.00 p.m. til 5.00 and then "Pirate Radio Night" is running til 8.30p.m.
 
(according to their schedules)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] PIRATE RADIO NIGHT

I was looking on the Sky EPG this evening.

I went to Red TV and selected Thursday however on Thursday evening it would appear that they are just broadcasting normal programmes. No mention of any programmes relaated to Pirate Radio.

Is this all a hoax? Unless the EPG is wrong, which could be possible.

 

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This was very odd.  I programmed my Sky+ to record these programmes, however checking after they had started, my box had 'forgotten' to start the recordings - which I had to to by hand and missed the first part up to about 5.15pm... Bah, you can't trust technology when you need it most.

Thought the quality of the video was very poor and blocky, looks as though Red TV has a very low bit rate.  Ok, it may have been worse for me watching on a 37" screen, but the other normal def channels are so much better quality.

Content:  Great for pure anoraks, Sea Wolf film very weird and had seen most of the rest before.  But very welcome and hope for maybe more in the future.  Till then there's always U Tube !

Geoff



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The start time was changed from five o'clock to four thirty and screwed up all subsequent Sky+ recordings - I was out and recorded nothing! Caught the end of C Wolf!
 
385Red2148128JS
Red's Bit Rate from Digitalradiotech. = very poor
 
You can always buy the DVDs from Ray!!

----- Original Message ----
From: Geoff <(Address removed)>
To: (Address removed)
Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2008 11:20:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] PIRATE RADIO NIGHT

This was very odd.  I programmed my Sky+ to record these programmes, however checking after they had started, my box had 'forgotten' to start the recordings - which I had to to by hand and missed the first part up to about 5.15pm... Bah, you can't trust technology when you need it most.

Thought the quality of the video was very poor and blocky, looks as though Red TV has a very low bit rate.  Ok, it may have been worse for me watching on a 37" screen, but the other normal def channels are so much better quality.

Content:  Great for pure anoraks, Sea Wolf film very weird and had seen most of the rest before.  But very welcome and hope for maybe more in the future.  Till then there's always U Tube !

Geoff



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Sterling Times <2@slewis.biz> said:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/14/twitter_goes_silent/

 

Twitter has stopped sending SMS updates to UK customers, thus leaving them unaware of the latest important updates on what their friends had for breakfast.

Twitter is a service for bloggers who can't string a sentence together and who want to appeal to readers who can't focus beyond a headline. Updates can be sent in over SMS message, limited to 140 characters, and are bounced out to interested parties.

The problem, for Twitter, is that sending SMS messages is an expensive business in Europe, even when they are purchased in bulk, and if an incoming message is bounced out to 10 "friends" then Twitter has to pay to send those ten messages. But while in Europe the sender has to pay the full cost of message delivery, as getting messages is free, in the USA received messages are deducted from the tariff bundle, so Twitter can continue to offer the service there. Back in Blighty, however, it's just too expensive.

The company reckons that even with a cap of 250 messages it could cost them $1K a year per punter, and given their complete lack of revenue that's hard to maintain. Those Twittering in the USA, Canada and India will still be able to have their day interrupted by the random ramblings of others.

 Twitter is total non-sense another digital service about to bite the dust due to a massive lack of consumer demand.

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Neil Gates <(Address removed)> said:

Twitter is total non-sense another digital service about to bite the
dust due to a massive lack of consumer demand.

Twitter hasn't bitten the dust, and there is still a massive demand for it. It's just no longer paying to send free texts outside of India, America and Canada. In those countries you pay for incoming calls and incoming texts, as well as for outgoing calls and outgoing texts. Whereas, here in Europe we only pay for outgoing calls and texts. We don't pay for incoming calls or texts.

In India, America and Canada, Twitter has been able to come to arrangements with the cellphone service providers to not have to pay anything to pass texts to them, based on the fact that the more texts that Twitter sends the more money the cellphone service providers actually make out of the people receiving them.

Meanwhile, over here the cellphone service providers don't make money when we receive texts, so want to charge the senders (ie Twitter). Twitter paid for a little while (a year or so?) but then decided it was silly.

I suspect they pulled it quickly to see if they could put pressure on influential users to put pressure on our cellphone service providers – after all, Twitter is used by 10 Downing Street, the BBC, Sky News, etc., etc., to send out bulletins directly to people's phones. I also suspect that this will fail to achieve anything, and so a package will be offered to non India, America and Canada users where they pre-pay a certain amount for receiving texts (called tweets) from Twitter. Then, everything will be back to 'normal'. Well, as normal as the world of micro-blogging can be.

You have to remember that micro-blogging and presence-sharing seems pointless and crazy to a lot of older stick-in-the-mud folk today who have only just mastered email (Meanwhile kids no longer use email, just micro-blogging and instant messaging as the Ofcom findings pointed out). I'm reminded of the 1960s when the older stick-in-the-mud types couldn't see the point or purpose of ships in the North Sea playing all that racket and thought it was all going to just be a pointless flash in the pan. They were wrong weren't they.

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