Friday, 6 June 2008
'Caroline' was out dated in its 80's return, it clearly didn't work,
why have a Legit license then even more so now? Caroline died in the
70's, it's 80's plastic copy wasn't a touch on what it was. The 80's
Caroline was just a tribute station, a 'wanna be' Caroline. I'd rather
slit my wrists than listen to the poop eminating from the Ross Revenge
back in the 80's and thought it was bland and boring with presenters who
needed a colanic errigation to sound alive, even compared to Radio 1 or
Laser Funf Funf Acht. At least Laser had personality. Get over it guys,
Caroline is the equivalent of buying a plastic car kit of the original
car. It's like buying a plastic policeman's helmet from a souvenir shop
in Victoria, it's not the real deal.What's all the fuss about? Caroline's legend is a little over bloated,
if it was anything it would change with the times and would still be a
recognised brand today. Caroline is as popular as calling your baby girl
Caroline Today. get over it, what ever your part is / was, simple fact
is today, no one gives a toss. It's like the t*ssrs who want to revive
Laser, radio London or RNI.... Move on!Da Guff
Merely answering a question/opinion but thankyou for your clear and concise critique!
DAVE RICHARDS 'JACK SPARROW' <25...> said:
What's all the fuss about? Caroline's legend is a little over bloated,
if it was anything it would change with the times and would still be a
recognised brand today. Caroline is as popular as calling your baby girl
Caroline Today. get over it, what ever your part is / was, simple fact
is today, no one gives a toss. It's like the t*ssrs who want to revive
Laser, radio London or RNI.... Move on!Da Guff
Merely answering a question/opinion but thankyou for your clear and
concise critique!
First of all I agree with Da Guff that Caroline’s legend is a little over bloated, there popularity in the 60's was legendary as it was the first. Caroline's formats have always been very strange and not everyone’s cup of tea, despite what everyone thinks they remember in the 60's, when Caroline first started she was not the swinging top 40 station. That format lasted only 2 years and was the equivalent of a Borg organisation of today.
However Caroline has touched many peoples lives and was instrumental in being the sound track of many peoples lives in the south east of England and parts of the continent, not just anoraks. I for one as an anorak and a person who loves history enjoys both this board and Garry's and look forward to hearing more of the adventures of the past from the likes of Dave, Chris, Neil and Peter for that matter, they make for interesting reading.
As for the future of radio and bringing back old names I don't agree with starting up stations like that. Caroline is different in that they didn't give up in 67 and although it's gone through a number of different forms the present one I feel has a place. It's not run by a borg, it's finance structure is reasonably stable (until the anoraks die, unless there is a good will) and it's a good alternative to some of the stations out there at the moment. Long may it continue.
Steve
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Alan Milewczyk <...> said:
Re: The Communicator, 189, and the DutchStephenI presume from your comments that you're based in the South East. Let me give you my perspective from the North West.
Ahoy Hoy
I sort agree with Da Guff.
I was brought up in the South of England and like many others really felt for the guys on the ships. But when Caroline returned from the Ross, I was working in Dorset and made the considerable effort to tune in and thought 'So What?' The format was crap. It came to the point I just tuned in to see if the ship was still on the air.
To me, the Mi Amigo days in the 70's were the biz. The station was unique at the time,all day album music on 192 I seem to remember. As a teenager, memories of listening to the pleas of of the crew in mortal danger when they thought she was lost, were unforgettable.
Didn't know much about the North ship at the time, but I think now it's probable she was the hippest station around during the sixties.
If anyone's interested on BBC Radio Scotland Stuart Cosgrove, on a Sunday night, presents 'Floorfillers' which is a tribute to Northern Soul and indirectly to Caroline North.
From: "Chris Dannatt" <...>
Quite clearly – a number of people DO give a toss, or the station
wouldn't still be broacasting. I for one am getting a little tired of
people telling me what I should and shouldn't be listening to. You are
entitled to your opinion, but so am I , So I won't be 'getting over'
listening to Caroline thanks – 60's / 70's and 80/s Caroline is part of
my history, and part of my life, and irespective of what you might think
of it, you cannot erase personal memories. Don't try !
I for one didn't hear Caroline in the 60's or 70's. I started listening just before the Mi Amigo went down. The signal up here was anorak quality at best a lot of the time. It was totally different of course in 83 when I heard the test broadcasts from the Ross, the signal would boom in as the Sun started to set, and the audio quality was quite impressive for AM. As for the format, as a 17 year old it was quite refreshing to hear a wide range of music from different artists, clutter free. It worked for me personally as I switched between Caroline and the Dublin super pirates.
I didn't like 558 much, although listening back to recordings of that era, they don't sound quite as bad as I thought they would be, maybe the memory was playing tricks!
So basically it is all about opinions, I quite liked the 83–85 era.
From: "Stephen Sullivan" <...>
As for the future of radio and bringing back old names I don't agree
with starting up stations like that. Caroline is different in that they
didn't give up in 67 and although it's gone through a number of
different forms the present one I feel has a place. It's not run by a
borg, it's finance structure is reasonably stable (until the anoraks
die, unless there is a good will) and it's a good alternative to some of
the stations out there at the moment. Long may it continue.
I listen to the current carnation of Caroline and to be honest there are bits I love and bits I hate. I don't want to be rude to certain presenters so I won't go through the whole list of what I like/dislike, but I will say Tuesday nights are a total turn off for me, I cannot stand Elvis, for me, he is one of the most over rated artists ever, and I just don't get it! The Rock n Roll show is probably aimed at people my dads age! And the 60's & 70's just ain't really my era, although I do like a bit of punk/new wave music.
Once again it is all about tastes and opinions.
From: "Alan Milewczyk" <...>
And yes, she touched many lives and was the soundtrack to our lives here
oop North!
Although I was too young (born in 1965) to listen myself, people around here of an older generation do still talk fondly of the station.
They must have been doing something right, but then again there was no real competition up here was there?
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Busy doing something else I came across this and thought it was a good thing to post here:
"Youth is a circumstance you can't do anything about. The trick is to grow up without getting old." ~ Frank Lloyd Wright
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Stephen Sullivan wrote,
First of all I agree with Da Guff that Caroline’s legend is a
little over bloated, there popularity in the 60's was legendary as
it was the first. Caroline's formats have always been very strange
and not everyone’s cup of tea, despite what everyone thinks they
remember in the 60's, when Caroline first started she was not the
swinging top 40 station. That format lasted only 2 years and was
the equivalent of a Borg organisation of today.However Caroline has touched many peoples lives and was
instrumental in being the sound track of many peoples lives in the
south east of England and parts of the continent, not just anoraks.
I for one as an anorakand a person who loves history enjoys both
this board and Garry's and look forward to hearing more of the
adventures of the past from the likes of Dave, Chris, Neil and
Peter for that matter, they make for interesting reading.
Sort of 'On Topic', here's a little glimpse.
I lead guided walks around South East London. There's a point on Shooters Hill where you can look down the estuary and just about see the North Sea.
I said to a bunch of walkers a few weeks ago "you can all wave at Radio Caroline now". Big smiles and nods of appreciation all round.
Many of them weren't old enough to have heard RC offshore...
They knew about The Lady though and I doubt they were thinking about Maidstone. Maybe they were all secret anoraks! Maybe they were
looking at Tilbury? (!)
All the best
Ian
RC Guff <...> said:
Q_1_2_3_4_5_6 <...> said:Hallo everyone. Read about this issue the Dutch thread
http://www.iradio.be/news/article.php?id=160000&group=nl.media.radio
Please protest against this by sending both an e-mail to Erik de Zwart
(for his e-mail address see that thread) and also using the contact form
on http://www.freerecordshop.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/FreeRecordShop-FRS_B2C_NL-Site/nl_NL/-/EUR/ContactForm-Misc?FormId=Misc
Greetings of Nico from Gouda, the Netherlands.Sorry, but the tecx must be corrupt. My browser can't read it. Does it
work with forefox?Da Guff
In article <32ded9ce6c06f164c42be3813b448078@jiglu-wc>, ... (Q_1_2_3_4_5_6) wrote:
Da Guff
Hi, Da Guff. Both links works with Microsoft. Nico.
Works in the lubly Firefox, Opera and IE
Regards
Eric
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Thanks for the heads up regarding "Floorfillers" but I'm a bit puzzled. Just been to Radio Scotland's website and there is no mention of the programme, either in the Listen Again, or the programme schedule or against the presenter's name. Has the series finished now?
Ahoy Hoy
Try this link Alex.
I missed last Sunday's show but now listening again ...if you see what I mean.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/email/stuartcosgrovesfloorfillers/
Quoting a previous Alan Milewczyk contribution:-
My father's reaction was explosive (against it),
but then he was knocking on 50 and the older folks felt threatened by
"Rock'n'Roll".
Interesting and apt use of the word 'threatened'. Do you suppose 'threatened' is what yer average 50+ feels today when faced with current House, Garage and Grime music?
It's sad if it is, 'cos then the cycle's not been broken. I think if I was looking for a word I feel about the 'new music' I don't understand then it would be more about me being angry or disappointed with me for not understanding it. Or maybe depressed because of the realisation that I was now obviously past it. Hmmm. Maybe that in itself is sort of threatening.
However, I've never been as aggressively against new music as the 50+ generation seemed to be in the 1960s. Maybe there was a lot more going on that we as youngsters didn't appreciate in those days.
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