Thursday, 8 May 2008
Neil Gates
There is NO free radio in this country it is over-regulated to the point of strangulation by govenment(s) who are scared of any sort of free expression.</p><p>The only way to broadcast to the Uk freely is by placing your free radio station outside of the UK's borders.</p></body></html>
Here, Here! The broadcast industry is run by too many yogurt knitting, fanny arsed, namby pamby, new style VW Golf driving, liberal gay wanna be lesbian. wheel chaired, ethnic, one armed, two toothed, single mothered, hooded, Mcdonald eating, fat, thin, DIY Maniac, Reality TV loving, Britain's got Talent sucker, LBC Listening, Mondeo Driving, Dislexic, ASBO, ADD, benefit fraudster, illegal immigrant employing, non license fee payer, PAYE non tax return filer, wacky backy smoking naughty type person.
Bring on some free radio. I've scanned through my FM / DAB radio tonight and have been absolutley bored to tears from the same format radio played over and over again for the last 15 years.....Boring, Stale, Clinical and absolutely tear jerking brain washing crap! Radio talking about TV programmes and TV celebrebs...how original!!!!!?????!!!! Radio talking utter pc, liveral shite on LBC. Even James Whale's replacement at TS would make safe nursery rythme ranting during any playtime Session. Radio, I'm bored of of ya! I'm off to watch non stop bid up TV, theres more of an education and entertainment on that channel.
Neil, I don't know you or anything about you, but if you can prove an entertaining format, even if its based on offshore radio from the past, I'll stick 10 grand your way and everyone has witnessed me saying that here at AN. But I want proof of what you plan to do. I'm willing to burn this money just to spite the establishment, but anything less than a 50kW offshore station with a entertaining schedule won't convince me otherwise. I can't stand the thought of a hospital radio station at sea as an alternative.
Convince me before I trash all my radio's in marK of respect for death of radio entertainment in this country. And please, all the Moyles / Evans / Radio 1 & 2 fans who try to convince me otherwise.....Get a life!
*People don't like what I say, Bollox! - Guff Sed Dat Innit!*
RC Guff <...> said:
Bring on some free radio. I've scanned through my FM / DAB radio tonight
and have been absolutley bored to tears from the same format radio
played over and over again for the last 15 years…..Boring, Stale,
Clinical and absolutely tear jerking brain washing crap! Radio talking
about TV programmes and TV celebrebs…how original!!!!!?????!!!! Radio
talking utter pc, liveral shite on LBC.*People don't like what I say, Bollox! – Guff Sed Dat Innit!*
Crumbs Guff! For 10 grand and with verbal eloquence like this,I reckon Neil should have you hosting the 9am-12 phone in show (via Inmarsat or Iridium of course!) regards,
Jim.
Neil Gates said:
There is NO free radio in this country it is over-regulated to the point
of strangulation by govenment(s) who are scared of any sort of free
expression.
The only way to broadcast to the Uk freely is by placing your free radio
station outside of the UK's borders.
Do we not have freedom of expression (relatively) on the internet with forums (which often show why freedom is not automatically a good thing) and internet audio broadcasting?
How about LBPs, sure the risk of raid is always there, but while on air the station staff have freedom of expression do they not? In many cases they don't do as much with it as perhaps they should.
Anoraks (of which I am one) often do the easy part of expressing dissatisfaction with the radio that is on offer, and I believe we do have a valid point in that.
The difficuly seems to arise when we move on from that to try to tackle what we think SHOULD be on offer on the radio instead.
So the question to Neil, R.C. Guff and everyone is:-
If someone gave you a totally free radio station to run starting tomorrow, what would you put on it?
Suggestions that we sometimes hear put forward are in practice often not very different from existing radio stations. Freedom surely is not a question of playing our personal favourite gramophone records instead of someone else's selections. Surely it is not just about replacing someone else's choices of presenter voices with our own pick of Smashies and Niceys.
Other anorak would-be programme controllers end up proposing things which, although not catered for, in practice have very limited appeal and so are difficult to sustain.
We anoraks DO have a point, we ARE on to something, but perhaps we need to develop and refine our ideas a bit before making such a song and dance about it otherwise we risk looking silly and undermining our own argument and position.
Hi All,
I'm really looking for your opinions or for someone to explain what may be occurring here.Please look at these radio licencing updates from Ofcom to do with re-licencing Dover/Folkestone(106.8mhz/96.4mhz) and Canterbury(106mhz) all at 100watts erp:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radio/ifi/rbl/car/readvertisement/notices/canterbury/
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radio/ifi/rbl/car/readvertisement/notices/doverfolk/
Notice that the licencees are refered too as CTFM Ltd and South East Radio Ltd. However by Ofcoms own published information, declarations of intent appear to have been received from completely different 'licencees' the change obviously occurring within the month, this published today 8/5/2008 at 1052 BST:
Canterbury and Dover/Folkestone
Ofcom has received one declaration of intent for each of the Canterbury and Dover/Folkestone local commercial radio licences from the current licensees, KMFM Canterbury Limited and KMFM Folkestone Limited respectively. Ofcom is therefore inviting the incumbent licensees to reapply for the licences under the 'fast-track' procedure as set out in Ofcom's guidelines.
Is there some aspect of business law or radio licencing that I've missed here? Has the office junior at Ofcom made a mistake?
Can licencees change during the time declarations of intent are called for? If they changed;How did they change..?
Please help with your suggestions.I come to you first looking for an explaination.. Thanks,
Jim.
n.b.-of course I had no idea that this was to occur; but you may like to read my posting under 'Brian May&investing in Caroline' thread.
Jim D. shorewayradio <...> said:
Has the office junior at Ofcom made a mistake? Can licencees change during
the time declarations of intent are called for?
They're both part of the Kent Messenger newspaper group, and they took control of those stations at different times – Now, I assume, they have re-named the Limited companies to make them more consistent. Not being too familiar with the radio geography of Kent (or wanting to trawl Ofcom's website), I'd say the original names quoted were those that first obtained the licenses.
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Charlie
Neil Gates is correct in his assumption that there is no "free radio", i mean a national free station that can be heard over the majority of the UK mainland, or for that matter over mainland europe on a MW/AM radio. If i had the resources to set a "free" station up on a ship in the South Falls Head, these would be my ideas of what it should be doing. Have a Nick Abbott type phone in request show and phone in, after 9 at night, comments of a topical or contraversal nature. Let people speak their minds, without being censored or cut off. Play a good mix of music and speech, where the dj/jock gives you the info about what he's playing and ask the listeners their choices too. Play as many unsigned new bands as possible, along side the classics, both hard rock and soft rock combined. If you have to have "the god squad" on for so many hours a day, so be it. With satellite and pc's ruling the world, and technology being what it is now, the station could be a truly two way thing, in every way. Thats my opinion, for what it's worth, all the best from Geordieland (geoff)
Charlie Davy <...> said:
They're both part of the Kent Messenger newspaper group, and they took
control of those stations at different times – Now, I assume, they have
re-named the Limited companies to make them more consistent. >
Thanks Charlie;
Having considered this;it occurs to me then that the newly 'named' Companies;having to undergo the same incorporation rules as any company,must be, legally, a new entity not previously connected to the original licence holding companies, and therefore don't they have to undergo the full licence application instead of being 'fast-tracked'?
Surely KMFM (Canterbury)Ltd (ex CTFM Ltd) and KMFM (Folkestone)Ltd (ex South East Radio Ltd) should be paying the full £15,000 intent fee's and £60,000 application fee's for these licences to be awarded to these 'new' companies,even if (as were told) that no other parties submitted letters of intent? Of course the system is designed to be ambiguous;we assume that the 'licences' means all 3 in the Dover/Folkestone case and 2 at Canterbury.ie Programme licences and frequency licences. Regards,
Jim.
Jim D. shorewayradio <...> said:
Having considered this;it occurs to me then that the newly 'named'
Companies;having to undergo the same incorporation rules as any
company,must be, legally, a new entity not previously connected to the
original licence holding companies, and therefore don't they have to
undergo the full licence application instead of being 'fast-tracked'?
'fraid I'm not really qualifed to answer that one, suffice to say that where only 1 application is received for a licence renewal, the "fast-track procedure" is the only real viable option – Unless of course Ofcom think the company/group are not a fit entity to hold a broadcase licence ;)
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Charlie
Am I missing something here ?
There doesn't appear to be a "signature" option on the "My Preferences" page of the forum… Also, when I sign my name below, I enter 2 hyphens, 2 taps of the enter key, then my name – If I enter my name on the line directly below the hyphens, it's stuck onto the end of them !
—Charlie (like that)
...and there was also a blank line above the hyphens, but it doesn't show on Preview or Post ;(
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Charlie (that's better)
Oi'll Give it Foive !
Quoting a previous Richard Sharpe contribution:-
Hasn't that been out before when they guy was calling himself something else?
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* Christopher England just said that *
