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Friday, 4 April 2008

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In article <5...>, ... (Christopher England) wrote:

Quoting a previous Alan Milewczyk contribution:-

Your choices are a matter of opinion, with which I'd disagree
pretty
violently. Moyles I've never heard, as for Ross and Evans, they
should
have been strangled at birth.

Ouch. Alan, you may well be completely right of course (I can't
stand Ross or Evans on the radio either), but aren't you in danger
of sounding like your father by expressing such as this view out
loud? :-)
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* Christopher England just said that *

With respect to Alan, this has been the basis of many of my comments over the last two years of so – 1960's/1970's rebels have switched positions. No longer are they rebels but they are, in truth, establishment.

Eric

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In article <7f5215e98be6f12bf584976e2af878b7@jiglu-wc>, ... (miamigorocks Geoff) wrote:

Thats what they call "free will" to choose what you
want to listen to, or hope to listen to in the future.

I fully agree on that point with the suffix, referring back to a previous thread, as long as that doesn't get tied in with a style of comment which makes the author sound or worse still behave like those we hated so much in are informative years.

Eric

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 I fully agree on that point with the suffix, referring back to a previous thread, as long as that doesn't get tied in with a style of comment which makes the author sound or worse still behave like those we hated so much in are informative years.
 
Eric

Could you please elaborate as i'm curious, when i was in my informative years the only thing I hated was the bullying by some of the kids in my school to me and to others. Some of the teachers were bullies too, come to that, but as i retaliated after a couple of years of it, with me smacking one of them (the kids) in their mouth, it stopped. Other than that I'm a very compassionate human being who just voices my opinion, and doesn't expect everyone to agree with it. I will listen to all sides and express my take on it all. These forums are just a group of thoughts and opinions, but as in life some people think their way is the only way, and off course it's not. LA and 73's geoff

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In article <0b4574457877fda29d95fdfc9542118f@jiglu-wc>, ... (miamigorocks Geoff) wrote:

Eric wrote:
I fully agree on that point with the suffix, referring back to a
previous thread, as long as that doesn't get tied in with a style
of comment which makes the author sound or worse still behave like
those we hated so much in are informative years.

Geoff Added:

Could you please elaborate as i'm curious, when i was in my
informative years the only thing I hated was the bullying



My reference was to the great number who called for change, wanted extended choice in music and audio delivery methods. Wanted to embrace new ideas and tried like mad to pull older people along with them.
Those that went out and tried to make a difference.

What I see here is, sometimes, is very same people who did so much to kick-start change now sounding like older people in the 60's who claimed change wasn't needed.

Today, there are so many doing good things for change. Equally, the failure of some to want to move on is sad to read.

I can assure you it wasn't a comment directed at you Geoff, more a general comment from that which you wrote.

Eric

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Not so much switched positions, more a case of being "out of time" (or "out of tune" or "out of step").
 
My formative years musically were late 50s through to the mid 70s, then punk hit and I found myself sounding like my dad. But people are talking as if there's something wrong with that. I am who I am and am very comfortable with that.
 
The same goes for humour. I grew up with the comedy primarily of the 60s (Morecambe and Wise, Hancock, Python, Marty Feldman, etc) and subsequently absorbed and recognised the genius of the Goon Show, so that was the 50s. The last "new" comedy I really went for was "Father Ted". As far as "Little Britain", "The Office", etc are concerned, I just don't get it. But what's wrong with that? Incdientally, I have been thoroughly enjoying watching the superb "Curse of Comedy" series on BBC4 TV watching programmes such as "It's Marty" and "The Frost Report" and thoroughly enjoying them and realising just why I loved them so mushc at the time.
 
I now realise we are "of an age" or "an era" and feel most comfortable with music and comedy, etc of that period. Sure, when I was a kid I said "I won't be like my father" or whatever, now I realise all I wanted was something that was "mine" and "of my era". When I was a kid the "oldies" had their music radio, we didn't in any real way until Ronan's crew came along in Easter 64. When you're 15, you don't have much of a past to go back to, so "my music" really started when Elvis first hit.
 
Just as kids have the right not to like what their parents like, so parents have the right not to like what their kids like. What p*sses me off is someone saying I have switched positions or trying to make me feel guilty about something I don't like. I've heard the odd bit of "new" music that's enthralled me, the most recent example being Duffy's "Mercy" which is an awesome piece of music, but a lot of it doesn't connect with me, after all it's sung/played by artists 30-40 years younger than me and is aimed at that market. They have their music and I have mine.
 
So, I'll unashamedly say I'm selfish. If others have music and radio and comedy that cranks their handle, then good luck to them - all I want is music and radio and comedy that connects with me! As far as Ross and Evans are concerned (and their followers, presumably), they think they're funny and amusing, I don't - it's as simple as that.
 
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Alan Milewczyk aka The Pole with Soul
Soul pix on the net at http://www.soulman1949.com
 
 
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I forgot to say the following in my previous e-mail about my attitude to current radio.
 
As I said, I'm selfish and just want something that satisfies ME. Until a few years ago, Radio 2 did that probably better than any other station. Things took a downward spiral when they brought Ross in on Saturday mornings and went into terminal decline when they took JW off Drivetime, substituting Evans in his place. These days I don't listen to Radio 2, except for Brian Matthew on Saturday mornings, Johnnie Walker on Sundays and certain specific excellent specialist programmes that are broadcast in the evenings, plus specialist shows, such as Northern Soul from Radio Stoke and Keith Skues on Norfolk.
 
As for the commercial (music) sector, that is dire - it's not broadcasting, it's narrowcasting. About 5300 records charted in the UK between 1956 and 1975. a shame we hear less than 10% of that! I'm part of the largest demographic group -the baby boomers - what I am continually exasperated about is the lack of the commercial sector in providing programming aimed at this (lucrative) market. The youngsters have any number of stations aimed ar them, what do we have, that's fun and varied?
 
Just over a year ago, I changed cars and got a car radio installed that has a USB connection. Nowadays, most of my listening in the car is to (non-commercial) programmes I've downloaded onto my memory stick from the internet - usually specialist R&B, 50s and 60s, girl sound, teen sound.
 
Yes, change is needed, to provide (music) radio for the 50 to 65-year olds. If we had a national station with the likes of JW, Roger Day, DLT, Rosko playing music that appeals to me, I'd gladly listen. Otherwise, I have my memory stick and iPod.
 
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Alan Milewczyk aka The Pole with Soul
Soul pix on the net at http://www.soulman1949.com
 
 
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Strewth, don't know what happened there.. let me post again...
 
I forgot to say the following in my previous e-mail about my attitude to current radio.
 
As I said, I'm selfish and just want something that satisfies ME. Until a few years ago, Radio 2 did that probably better than any other station. Things took a downward spiral when they brought Ross in on Saturday mornings and went into terminal decline when they took JW off Drivetime, substituting Evans in his place. These days I don't listen to Radio 2, except for Brian Matthew on Saturday mornings, Johnnie Walker on Sundays and certain specific excellent specialist programmes that are broadcast in the evenings, plus specialist shows, such as Northern Soul from Radio Stoke and Keith Skues on Norfolk.
 
As for the commercial (music) sector, that is dire - it's not broadcasting, it's narrowcasting. About 5300 records charted in the UK between 1956 and 1975. a shame we hear less than 10% of that! I'm part of the largest demographic group -the baby boomers - what I am continually exasperated about is the lack of the commercial sector in providing programming aimed at this (lucrative) market. The youngsters have any number of stations aimed ar them, what do we have, that's fun and varied?
 
Just over a year ago, I changed cars and got a car radio installed that has a USB connection. Nowadays, most of my listening in the car is to (non-commercial) programmes I've downloaded onto my memory stick from the internet - usually specialist R&B, 50s and 60s, girl sound, teen sound.
 
Yes, change is needed, to provide (music) radio for the 50 to 65-year olds. If we had a national station with the likes of JW, Roger Day, DLT, Rosko playing music that appeals to me, I'd gladly listen. Otherwise, I have my memory stick and iPod.
 
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Alan Milewczyk aka The Pole with Soul
Soul pix on the net at http://www.soulman1949.com
 
 
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Alan Milewczyk <...> said:
Re: Fair CommentsI forgot to say the following in my previous e-mail about my attitude to current radio.

Crikey Alan, you are getting OLD, you have just said the same thing twice in a couple of minutes!

Terry

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Quoting a previous Alan Milewczyk contribution:-

My formative years musically were late 50s through to the mid 70s, then
punk hit and I found myself sounding like my dad. But people are talking
as if there's something wrong with that. I am who I am and am very
comfortable with that.

Ah, apologies if I was indicating you shouldn't be comfortable with it. Yes, you should be comfortable, but also have your sort of live and let live approach. I think the problem all to often is that people say, "This isn't for me so therefore it's rubbish and anybody who likes it is mad" instead of "This isn't for me, but fair enough, others seem to like it".

Hopefully the majority of 'our' generation would at least be more tolerant of the generations that come after us, rather than show the intolerance that previous generations showed to us. Maybe that's what we have to learn that they didn't.

As far as Ross and
Evans are concerned (and their followers, presumably), they think
they're funny and amusing, I don't – it's as simple as that.

Doesn't that rather leave you on the outside with nobody on mainstream radio you can listen to? That's a bit harsh. Where are you and people like you supposed to tune?
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* Christopher England just said that *

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Thanks for the reply, Chris. No, it wasn't you I was aiming my comments at. As you say, live and let live on both sides, young and older.
 
As for being outside mainstream radio, dead right. Since Radio 2 decided to go for the 30/40-somethings, I have less and less to listen to on that channel, apart from the specialist programmes. But the Beeb still does better than the commercial sector, ironically, considering my stance in the 60s. TheGold channels totally ignore the late 50s and early 60s, it's as if the world started in 1967 with "Rock" - and that's a tag I loathe. As far as I'm concerned it's *all* "Pop" music, what's wrong it being "Pop"? The "Rock" tag implies something that's more worthy than mere pop - what cr*p!
 
Anyway, it's specialist internet stations that meet my needs these days - through them, I am still discovering "new" music (to me) from the late 50s and early 60s.
 
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Alan Milewczyk aka The Pole with Soul
Soul pix on the net at http://www.soulman1949.com
 
 
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