Wednesday, 26 March 2008
Ofcom today announces the award of six new community radio licences.
Eric Tesug <...> said:
Ofcom today announces the award of six new community radio licences.
I wonder if many people actually listen to Community Radio Stations?
When i lived in Welling we could get TGR Sound and as i always like to give new ventures a chance i gave it a listen for a while and to be honest it wasn't my cup of tea, The music policy is all over the place from the 50s until today but it just didn't gell,
The subjects of the talk shows held no interest for me either,
I can understand if they are in a out of the way place with little or no Commercial competition they might do well but where there is a lot of competition i dought many people listen.
Richard
Stewart Ross <...> said:
Re: Ofcom today announces the award of six new community radio licences.hi richard give me a drifting carrier any day with a battery keep anoraking
Hi Stewart couldn't agree more, Have a good day!!
Richard
In article <1c65929cdeb34a58342fa70a5c835a51@jiglu-wc>, ... (Richard Sharpe) wrote:
When i lived in Welling we could get TGR Sound and as i always like
to give new ventures a chance i gave it a listen for a while and to
be honest it wasn't my cup of tea, The music policy is all over the
place from the 50s until today but it just didn't gell,The subjects of the talk shows held no interest for me either,
I think you have a point in that there are only so many areas of music that you can join together that work. I certainly would struggle to link the 1950's with todays music unless it was the Esso Blue Song, well maybe not. But it would need to be a major interest track.
It's funny, now that a well known mobile company is using the Monkees for an ad we now get asked to play the track, but they don't ask for the Monkees they ask for the music from the XXXX ad.
The above noted I think a bit of adventurous musical programming is what radio needs AND it avoids the 'let's not disrupt the flow of the music' comments as presenters are needed to link the music in such shows.
Just wondering, were the talk shows 'My dog has problems with the cat' or were they really interesting debates?
Eric
In article <8ed0a818f721576bbdd7b7111fe1b0b9@jiglu-wc>, ... (Richard Sharpe) wrote:
Stewart Ross <...> said:
Re: Ofcom today announces the award of six new community radio
licences.hi richard give me a drifting carrier any day with a
battery keep anorakingHi Stewart couldn't agree more, Have a good day!!
With the greatest of respect guys I am now going to steal a phrase from the young Mr England. Surely the drifting carrier/car battery broadcaster is really only a, here comes the bit from Sir CE, 'Vanity Broadcaster'. Debate?
Eric
From: "Richard Sharpe" <...>
I wonder if many people actually listen to Community Radio Stations?
Probably the relatives of the presenters.
When i lived in Welling we could get TGR Sound and as i always like to
give new ventures a chance i gave it a listen for a while and to be
honest it wasn't my cup of tea, The music policy is all over the place
from the 50s until today but it just didn't gell,The subjects of the talk shows held no interest for me either,
I can understand if they are in a out of the way place with little or no
Commercial competition they might do well but where there is a lot of
competition i dought many people listen.
Totally agree. There is one that has just started in Wirral called 7 Waves, and reading your description of TGR, you could equally be describing 7 Waves.
Raydio Freak <...> said:
Chris
You must have too much time on your hands to write such a complicated bout of humour on a BH weekend – Isn't London Zoo open this weekend?
What a bout some facts for a change?? Of the currrent 8 Caroline net streams – the top 2 are of the 44th Birthday Easter Broadcast and two of the International streams sit at ZERO. Think the listeners are voting with their ears!
What listeners???? These "Caroline" streams have a combined audience of under 150 listeners! NO ONE is listening to ANY of them!
The majority of people who live in the real world are listening to real radio on AM and FM.
From: "Neil Gates" <...>
What listeners???? These "Caroline" streams have a combined audience of
under 150 listeners! NO ONE is listening to ANY of them!
Just to correct you here. I only checked the main 64k stream and that had 210 out of 250 slots taken. I can't comment on the other streams.
The majority of people who live in the real world are listening to real
radio on AM and FM.
It is a good job it was on 945 kHz then :-)
From: "Richard Sharpe" <...>
When i lived in Welling we could get TGR Sound and as i always like to
give new ventures a chance i gave it a listen for a while
Hi Richard,
When I had my office in Welling I could not receive TGR, so it must have been very sporadic coverage, therefore I cannot pass comment on the programmes. However when I spoke to people in the area NOBODY had ever heard of TGR, so I doubt they had many listeners. Does anybody know about BLR (Bean Local Radio) I thought they had been granted a licence? Am I wrong about this, or have they given up the "radio" route? I know they are still on the internet....do they get any listeners? If Tony Christian reads AN perhaps he could let us know.
Steve Martin <...> said:
From: "Neil Gates" <...>
What listeners???? These "Caroline" streams have a combined audience of
under 150 listeners! NO ONE is listening to ANY of them!Just to correct you here. I only checked the main 64k stream and that had
210 out of 250 slots taken. I can't comment on the other streams.
The majority of people who live in the real world are listening to real
radio on AM and FM.It is a good job it was on 945 kHz then :-)
Yes In Riga where the majority of the population have never heard of Caroline and care even less! where was their AM signal for London or anywhere else in the UK for that matter?
WOW 250 listening online then....a real ratings winner the whole thing is a joke!!!
From: "Neil Gates" <...>
WOW 250 listening online then....a real ratings winner the whole thing
is a joke!!!
OK let's say 250 online, plus Sky, Worldspace, 945 in Latvia.
Lets for example say the audience in total is 1000 (maybe more maybe less)
What harm is it doing those 1000 people?
You go on about ratings winners, up here we have Radio City, according to RAJAR a real ratings winner, according to me a real load of shite!
I dip into Caroline now and again, bits I like, bits I don't like.
You would struggle to get 1000 listeners from a rusting hulk on a crackly AM signal.
You know what the biggest joke is? People threatening to start an offshore station then doing f*** all about it!
Now that really IS a joke :-)
Ofcom has today published three fact sheets relating to the UK's switch to digital television.
The fact sheets provide detailed information on digital terrestrial television coverage, as follows:
– Fact sheet 1: Digital terrestrial television coverage predictions. To assist the process of planning for switchover, computer models are used to predict coverage of the digital terrestrial television (Freeview) signal. This fact sheet explains how the predictions are worked out.
– Fact sheet 2: Coverage of the public service multiplexes after switchover. The coverage of the public service multiplexes has been designed to meet the same coverage level (98.5% of the population) as the existing analogue services after switchover. However, these multiplexes will not cover exactly the same 98.5% of households. This fact sheet sets out the reasons for the differences along with details on the ways in which different groups of households might be affected.
– Fact sheet 3: Why some people will receive more digital television channels than others. There are four different ways to get digital television: through an aerial (Freeview), by satellite, cable or broadband. This fact sheet sets out the different digital television options and explains why the number of television channels available on Freeview differs in different parts of the UK.
The fact sheets are available from the link below:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/tv/reports/dsoind/factsheets/
Steve Martin <...> said:
From: "Neil Gates" <...>
WOW 250 listening online then….a real ratings winner the whole thing
is a joke!!!OK let's say 250 online, plus Sky, Worldspace, 945 in Latvia.
Lets for example say the audience in total is 1000 (maybe more maybe less)
What harm is it doing those 1000 people?
You go on about ratings winners, up here we have Radio City, according to
RAJAR a real ratings winner, according to me a real load of shite!I dip into Caroline now and again, bits I like, bits I don't like.
You would struggle to get 1000 listeners from a rusting hulk on a crackly AM
signal.You know what the biggest joke is? People threatening to start an offshore
station then doing f*** all about it!Now that really IS a joke :-)
It's not doing them any harm at all if they are happy in this little world of their own.
I just think that it is extreamly sad that the legend that was Radio Caroline,with it's audience of millions has been turned into what it has become over the last 17 plus years.
As for my plans for a new offshore station I can assure you and everyone else I am doing plenty about it.
The station has a secure contracted income for religious broadcasting that will not only pay the stations running costs but will make a profit for those brave enough to invest financially in the project.
In article <961f1cb0cd9d2ea49dd134ee72544864@jiglu-wc>, ... (Neil Gates) wrote:
Yes In Riga where the majority of the population have never heard
of Caroline
Actually Neil you are a bit off target there. If you ask many of the slightly older people they will share that Luxy and in "good" weather conditions Caroline were very important in the old days. And the affection they hold for such stations is still very high.
I think it was 97/98 when I was there working for a former employer who was finding it hard to work to conclude something. I was along for the ride and once people found out I was an ex this and that radio person the reaction was amazing, albeit slightly OTT for my liking. The deal was the easily concluded.
Even now I still get people who visit me to remind me of something that took place in early satellite days when they had to hide the dish during the day – it may seem bizarre to many but you only have to see the faces of these people to really feel that which they went through when we were having to put up with the so difficult struggle of not having enough money to buy even more new toys for a car.
Neil and others you would be very very surprised what people did to listen to some radio stations in the past and how important that listening was to them – fortunately today they have choice, a very good thing.
Eric
From: "Neil Gates" <...>
It's not doing them any harm at all if they are happy in this little
world of their own.
I think they probably are or they wouldn't listen.
I just think that it is extreamly sad that the legend that was Radio
Caroline,with it's audience of millions has been turned into what it has
become over the last 17 plus years.
Do you not think it had run it's natural course by the end of the 80's? AM radio was being replaced by FM, where was the money going to come from?
The station has a secure contracted income for religious broadcasting
that will not only pay the stations running costs but will make a profit
for those brave enough to invest financially in the project.
Religious broadcasting, an obvious ratings winner!
Neil Gates <...> said:
i just think that it is extreamly sad that the legend that was Radio Caroline,with it's audience of millions has been turned into what it has become over the last 17 plus years.
last 17 YEARS. now thats pre 1991 I assume. i don't think Caroline ever had "an audience of millions" except in the sixties. and maybe for a while after Laser was towed in.
anyway what does it matter............If there are 10 of us listening.........or 10 million........ at least its there....sending out its call sign and keeping the dream alive......
The Legend Lives On........
Quoting a previous Steve Martin contribution:-
OK let's say 250 online, plus Sky, Worldspace, 945 in Latvia.
Lets for example say the audience in total is 1000 (maybe more maybe
less)
I'd be pedantic and say it's probably a lot less than 1,000, but a tangential general question not to do with Caroline Mattress specifically, is at what point is it actually pointless?
I mean, if I was on the air displaying my immense talent for say 3 people (on City Talk for example) I'd feel that was pretty pointless. What figure is a 'fair' figure? 100? 300? 1,000? 10,000? I've often wondered.
With more and more stations, some with pretty obscure remits, there must be times when there's nobody listening at all. So, when you've got stations like Caroline Mattress or Big L Frinton without the regular outlets used by stations that people actually listen to, there must be quite demoralising times, let alone when people put on random irregular 'net stations that nobody listens to.
What harm is it doing those 1000 people?
Ah, what about the subliminal message being broadcast a half-tone away from the main output? You know, the one telling people to have sex with other people's gerbils. Caroline Mattress has been broadcasting such outrageous stuff for many years now, yet everybody denies it.
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* Christopher England just said that *
What listeners???? These "Caroline" streams have a combined audience of
under 150 listeners! NO ONE is listening to ANY of them!It is a good job it was on 945 kHz then :-)
Hi Neil,or as PM likes to call you,'Neal'.
Can I ask you a question ?
What have YOU or anyone else done in the last 17 years.
By the way,It would make you look a lot better if you had a spell checker running! Just a suggestions.Don't take offence (offense).
I have had a listen to Radio Caroline over Easter and it is has been as good as anything i have heard. The bottom line is this,
Nobody plays music-Like Me!
What about a Synchronized LBP.
Is that possibble ?
Sorry,just my mind wandering.
Buenos noches
Regards
Dave Dobson.
Quoting a previous Anthony Cant contribution:-
anyway what does it matter............If there are 10 of us
listening.........or 10 million........ at least its there....sending
out its call sign and keeping the dream alive......
What dream is that exactly? I've often wondered.
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* Christopher England just said that *
