Wednesday, 20 February 2008

In article <20080219184832.8871....>, ... (Roy Sandgren) wrote:

You got to follow the rules and regulation of broadcasting like
other radiostations got to do.
Like communityradio, commercial radio, public radio and the licence
issued by Ofcom, no problemas??

Yes, but my question was Who Will Make Sure the Rules are followed, who will be the regulator?

Eric



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Geoff



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Geoff



I recently acquired freeview so that the lady wife could watch endless crime programmes.

She noticed that the sound and picture sometimes go out of sync, not much more than a millisecond I would suppose. Changing channels clears this.

I can envisage that sound and vision are broadcast separately. Is this phenomenom integral to the system.

Techies help!

Regards

Ted

From: "Christopher England" <...>

I'm concerned about the lack of updates from Sybil on Chris Cary's
Message board.

Yes I was feeling the same way, but I notice there is an update now.

Ted Finch <...> said:
I recently acquired freeview so that the lady wife could watch endless
crime programmes.

She noticed that the sound and picture sometimes go out of sync, not
much more than a millisecond I would suppose. Changing channels clears
this.

I can envisage that sound and vision are broadcast separately. Is this
phenomenom integral to the system.

Hi Ted i have had a stand alone Freeview box for a few years and now have a TV with it built in but have never had this problem so it is not the system,

It sounds like a problem with your particular box or the installation,

 I have heard of it happening when the signal is weak and the box is trying to do error correction. Of course, the problem may also be solved by a software update, Can i suggest first of all you check your signal strength and if you have not done so you might like to upgrade your antenna,

If this is OK the box may need a over the air software update,Most boxes have a menu somewhere to allow you to do that,

Another fix may be worth trying is to unplug the box from the mains for about 30 secs and then plug it back in again, This resolves no end of problems with digital gadgets,

Failing that its down to taking it back to the shop to change it!!

Hope this is of some help!!

Richard

In article <001601c873c1$db5da950$6f99d152@malmoe>, ... (Roy) wrote:

Ok it's the same in Sweden www.rtvv.se isusse the licence and
handle claims of contents.

That will be not any problems to a liberal law of broadcasting of
AM radio??? limited power like 1 kw 12 h of programming between
0600–2100 = freedom of speech,

OK Roy we know you want to make the AM band free for all to use, but you have one major problem which will stop that ever happening. International groups, such as the ITU, would not sanction such a thing without a well thought out reason to do it.
Forget about the UK for now, but take as an example Poland.
Poland has borders with many countries and if you place an AM transmitter, even with just 1 watt, close to the border there could be times when an international agreement needs to be made.
Many countries discuss this now even with low-power FM services so doing it with AM would need much more planning and international agreement.

So I'm back to the original question which you have yet to fully answer which is who would regulate such a scheme?
Then you need to add that a regulator needs money to operate and so how much money would you pay to make sure the regulator could do a good job and keep every country in the world happy?

So what answers do you have for those who would probably support your idea if they had some idea how you would make it work – just saying freeing up a band isn't going to work

Eric

Eric Tesug <...> said:
In article <1b8529cd03809b90d6e52c9d9f62b60e@jiglu-wc>,
... (Jim D. shorewayradio) wrote:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/news/2008/02/nr_20080219a

I trust that all this will have been cost-effective for the tax
paying public_ Regards,
Jim

OFCOM is funded by those holding a license, it has to provide balance
sheets to do that as well. So unless I have something horribly wrong,
there is no impact either way on the tax-payer.

Regards
Eric

Surely you are aware of the civil-service 'gravy train' Eric!
Who let these pirate stations flouish,and over how long a time?
Ofcom.
Who knew exactly when each of these pirates commenced broadcasts (with digital spectral analysis and hard disk recording of ALL known available spectrum?) Ofcom.

Who(apart from our own C.E.) has today contacted Ofcom to thank them for restoring their listening pleasure to legally established services...and if no thanks has been passed; just how many 'tens' of people actually benefit from this action being taken?..apart from Ofcom/other Govt employees,who on top of their salary,have recieved overtime/expenses for these 'extra-curricular' activities. Anyway;in this i-pod/download/mobile digital generation;is it not young people that make these stations a success?..or does London have some really funky blue-rincers that we don't know about.(apart from C.E. that is!)

Money would be better spent by Ofcom monitoring the different languages and dialects used during the annual Radio Ramadan debacle-often moderates will not raise complaints against radicals... ...a bit like why Ofcom let some of these pirates get away with it for so long? regards,
JIm.

In article <53949fcdac83a3fc2506ca656ad49212@jiglu-wc>, ... (Jim D. shorewayradio) wrote:

Money would be better spent by Ofcom monitoring the different
languages and dialects used during the annual Radio Ramadan
debacle-often moderates will not raise complaints against radicals_
...a bit like why Ofcom let some of these pirates get away with it
for so long? regards,

I'm sure all sorts of multi-lingual channels are monitored, mine included in that.
I've had to deal with some pirates in the past myself, some were really good people and did things with HUGE respect for other users and would shut down rather than interfere.
Others you receive F-OFF IT'S MY CHANNEL, oh really since when?

I'm also mindful of some, in the politically-correct world of today, who probably had to wade through all sorts of paperwork before they knocked on a door.

But what ever the case, they pirates know they are unauthorised and have to expect things to happen – break the speeding laws and get caught, you get a ticket – smoke in the wrong place, you get a ticket (that's why I like my place, we can smoke). So they have no excuse, they know the risks and if they get done, sobeit.
However, what I don't understand is why OFCOM get clobbered by some when they are only doing what they have to do – if they were to do nothing at all a HUGE group would be down on them like a ton of bricks, they do something then another group complain – bizarre isn't it.

Just to reprise the main point, these guys know the risks, take the chance and if caught – well that's the way it goes.

Eric

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] Ofcom RIS press release...
Date: 2008–02–20 20:08
From: Roy Sandgren <...>
To: tesug <...>

Apply to an am licence when you did find a QTH to the TX/antenna. Apply to the administration in your country.They wiil let PTT find the frequency to you wich can be in service without interfearing with a station at the same frquency.
A simple licence to an communityradio or a private person.No bids or financiall questions.Mostly you can be on air during daytime only but you are a free station. low fee.
roy

"tesug" <...> wrote:
Re: Ofcom RIS press release...
In article <001601c873c1$db5da950$6f99d152@malmoe>,
... (...) (Roy) wrote:

Ok it's the same in Sweden www.rtvv.se (http://www.rtvv.se) isusse
the licence and
handle claims of contents.

That will be not any problems to a liberal law of broadcasting of
AM radio??? limited power like 1 kw 12 h of programming between
0600–2100 = freedom of speech,

OK Roy we know you want to make the AM band free for all to use, but
you have one major problem which will stop that ever happening.
International groups, such as the ITU
(http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/itu) , would not sanction
such a thing without a well thought out reason to do it.
Forget about the UK for now, but take as an example Poland.
Poland (http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/poland) has borders
with many countries and if you place an AM transmitter, even with just
1 watt, close to the border there could be times when an international
agreement needs to be made.
Many countries discuss this now even with low-power FM services so
doing it with AM would need much more planning and international
agreement.

So I'm back to the original question
(http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/original-question) which you
have yet to fully answer which is who would regulate such a scheme?
Then you need to add that a regulator needs money to operate and so
how much money would you pay to make sure the regulator could do a
good job and keep every country in the world happy?

So what answers do you have for those who would probably support your
idea if they had some idea how you would make it work – just saying
freeing (http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/free) up a band
isn't going to work

Eric

Free thought + Free speech + Free radio = Anorak Nation

www.jiglu.com (http://www.jiglu.com) – communities that think for
themselves

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Anorak Nation] Ofcom RIS press release...
Date: 2008–02–20 20:08
From: Roy Sandgren <...>
To: tesug <...>

Apply to an am licence when you did find a QTH to the TX/antenna. Apply to the administration in your country.They wiil let PTT find the frequency to you wich can be in service without interfearing with a station at the same frquency.
A simple licence to an communityradio or a private person.No bids or financiall questions.Mostly you can be on air during daytime only but you are a free station. low fee.
roy

"tesug" <...> wrote:
Re: Ofcom RIS press release...
In article <001601c873c1$db5da950$6f99d152@malmoe>,
... (...) (Roy) wrote:

Ok it's the same in Sweden www.rtvv.se (http://www.rtvv.se) isusse
the licence and
handle claims of contents.

That will be not any problems to a liberal law of broadcasting of
AM radio??? limited power like 1 kw 12 h of programming between
0600–2100 = freedom of speech,

OK Roy we know you want to make the AM band free for all to use, but
you have one major problem which will stop that ever happening.
International groups, such as the ITU
(http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/itu) , would not sanction
such a thing without a well thought out reason to do it.
Forget about the UK for now, but take as an example Poland.
Poland (http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/poland) has borders
with many countries and if you place an AM transmitter, even with just
1 watt, close to the border there could be times when an international
agreement needs to be made.
Many countries discuss this now even with low-power FM services so
doing it with AM would need much more planning and international
agreement.

So I'm back to the original question
(http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/original-question) which you
have yet to fully answer which is who would regulate such a scheme?
Then you need to add that a regulator needs money to operate and so
how much money would you pay to make sure the regulator could do a
good job and keep every country in the world happy?

So what answers do you have for those who would probably support your
idea if they had some idea how you would make it work – just saying
freeing (http://www.anoraknation.com/tags/topics/free) up a band
isn't going to work

Eric

Free thought + Free speech + Free radio = Anorak Nation

www.jiglu.com (http://www.jiglu.com) – communities that think for
themselves

In article <20080220180001.30440....>, ... (Roy Sandgren) wrote:

OK, so the next thing will be type approval of your antenna, then someone needs to be paid to inspect it.
Naturally you'll have to pay the PTT as well as the licensing people.

I don't know if you will do news, but if you do that will cost you. Music wise, unless you play only copyright cleared music, you'll need to come up with a deal with the music rights people.

It's isn't free Roy, that's the problem – it's a great dream of an idea, but in reality it's not a runner.

Eric

Well you have to be prepared to pay the inspection as copyrigths.
ITU can not denie you to get a licence by the radioauthority in your country.
Don't make it so very complicated, it's not, when it's to simple to do, it will be complicated to others.
roy

Any UK based Dutch radio fans may be interested to know that a station on AM from Holland seems to be lurking on 1296Khz these days. At least it was this morning until about 11ish GMT. Presumably it's renting the Beeb's facility at Orfordness for these broadcasts.

My very limited knowledge of the Dutch langauge gave me the impression that the station is aimed at lorry drivers (so presumably we can look forward to tips on how take the maximum possible time to overtake other lorries on dual carriageways, your 5 favourite ways of disposing of the bodies of female hitchikers and the latest from the 2008 lard eating championships). They sounded pretty confident about the range of their tx by giving traffic news for Italy of all places (maybe they simulcast on SW).

It sounds even better with a hint of that Asian thing from Birmingham underneath it. It's not much, but in this bleak, miserable, post-Arrow on AM world, it's about all that's left. Doom.

Reagrds to All,
Giles.

gloworm558 . <...> said:

Any UK based Dutch radio fans may be interested to know that a station
on AM from Holland seems to be lurking on 1296Khz these days. At least
it was this morning until about 11ish GMT. Presumably it's renting the
Beeb's facility at Orfordness for these broadcasts.

If anyone's still awake after that last load of drivel I wrote, I just found it's a Radio Netherlands broadcast, 500Kw from Orfordness, Suffolk. This from the RNW site:

Met ingang van het winterseizoen van 2007 is Radio Nederland Wereldomroep weer op de 1296 kHz vanuit Orfordness te beluisteren. Op de Nederlandse Antillen wordt het signaal van Radio Nederland Wereldomroep ook doorgegeven via diverse lokale AM stations

Cheers,
Giles.

Hallo everyone. Radio Caroline will broadcast a special programma at Easter this year. Read the message on http://groups.google.com/nl.media.radio.zeezenders/browse_thread/thread/7a6ed6284a0206b5/dfe78c95345719e1#dfe78c95345719e1 I have one question yet: will Radio Caroline also transmit this special programme on the 1278 kHz AM from the Ross Revenge? Greetings of Nico from Gouda, the Netherlands.

Q_1_2_3_4_5_6 <...> said:
Hallo everyone. Radio Caroline will broadcast a special programma at
Easter this year. Read the message on
http://groups.google.com/group/nl.media.radio.zeezenders/browse_thread/thread/7a6ed6284a0206b5/dfe78c95345719e1#dfe78c95345719e1

I have one question yet: will Radio Caroline also transmit this special
programme on the 1278 kHz AM from the Ross Revenge?
Greetings of Nico from Gouda, the Netherlands.

(link corrected)