Wednesday, 10 October 2007

Alan Milewczyk <...> said:
Re: Is it all over for Caroline Maidstone?So, tell us.

Hi Alan,

It could have been me writing what you wrote. I very rarely listen to Caroline these days, occasionally Johnny Lewis if I remember, though Mike Parry and Andy Townsend usually stop me from drifting off Talksport on Saturdays.

As you say most people on here have seen enough of life to realise there are two sides to every story and everyone at some point has been exploited in their life, even if at the time they were willing participants. I see no reason why peoples recollections cannot be made public and the reader make up there own minds.

I don't have an admiration, dislike or envy of Ronan, if he didn't start British offshore Radio someone else would have. He was there at the right time and took the opportunity. All I want to know are the personal experiences of the people who were there.

It's kind of reminds me about the Vietnam conflict, the only ones that talk about it, are the one's that were either not there or on the fringes, while the real people involved do not talk,

Steve

Stephen Sullivan <...> said:

Alan Milewczyk <...> said:
Re: Is it all over for Caroline Maidstone?So, tell us.

roline these days, occasionally Johnny Lewis if I remember, though Mike Parry and Andy T

Hi Alan,

ownsend usually stop me from drifting off Talksport on Saturdays.

As you say most people on here have seen enough of life to realise there are two sides to every story and everyone at some point has been exploited in their life, even if at the time they were willing participants. I see no reason why peoples recollections cannot be made public and the reader make up there own minds.

IBriti don't have an admiration, dislike or envy of Ronan, if he didn't start sh offshore Radio someone else would have. He was there at the right time and took the opportunity. All I want to know are the personal experiences of the people who were there.

It's kind of reminds me about the Vietnam conflict, the only ones that talk about it, are the one's that were either not there or on the fringes, while the real people involved do not talk,

Steve

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"I don't have an admiration, dislike or envy of Ronan, if he didn't start  offshore Radio someone else would have. "

You sure about that ??!!  I'm not ..... names please?

Regards 

ORSON

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Well there is a point in all this. In the 60s there was very little Radio. Us Anoraks in our short trousers were so happy to have the Pirate boys beaming out the great music and chat. It was so "special" and when the UK government closed our "special" thing down we all became anti BBC. We scanned the band for anything that wasn't BBC. only natural we are human and we don't like to be told what to do by anyone. its not in our culture. Now today there are thousands of radio stations from varoius different providers and platforms.. we have so much choice. But still we are looking for something different. "something special" maybe there is no such thing. but we think there is something out there we want. but we can't seem to get it.

maybe we are just waiting for something new. Cluture Free has become boring. personality radio has just not done it for us.

I must admit I have only just joined this discussion group and I see an "anti Caroline" bias from some people. Leave caroline alone. Its doing fine. maybe its not how some of us would like it. but hey has it ever been...

I wish them all the best..

wELL THERE IS A POINT IN ALL THIS.Orson Cart <...> said:

"CSI Laser 558 transmitters had all the major parts stolen and cannot be used again"

Are we saying that the authorties confiscated them or stolen as in "nicked"

When they came in as Laser 558 into Harwich I was surprised that non of the transmitting equipment was confiscated then. within weeks they were back out there as "Laser Hot Hots 576.

Orson Cart <...> said:
Quote:

"I don't have an admiration, dislike or envy of Ronan, if he didn't
start offshore Radio someone else would have. "

You sure about that ??!! I'm not ..... names please?

Regards

ORSON

An English service was actually broadcast on the Veronica ship in 1961. Alan Crawford of Radio Atlanta was only a month and half behind Caroline starting. The only reason they did not beat Caroline was that Ronan's father owned the shipyard, well documented in Offshore history books. Plus European offshore radio had been around since 1958 and London was perfect for a ship to park in its rivers estuary to make money, it was just a matter of time. Ronan used events to his advantage and good on him. The part he plays is whether anyone would have had the guts to carry on after 67. Then again I believe it was Phillip Solomon who took the gamble not our Irish friend. History books seem to say is that he was the one with the silver tongue that manipulated/persuaded others to the decent thing and fight for freedom, or chase the money, depending on your opinion,

Steve

Stephen Sullivan <...> said:

Orson Cart <...> said:
Quote:

"I don't have an admiration, dislike or envy of Ronan, if he didn't
start offshore Radio someone else would have. "

You sure about that ??!! I'm not ….. names please?

Regards

ORSON

An English service was actually broadcast on the Veronica ship in 1961. Alan Crawford of Radio Atlanta was only a month and half behind Caroline starting. The only reason they did not beat Caroline was that Ronan's father owned the shipyard, well documented in Offshore history books.
Plus European offshore radio had been around since 1958 and London was perfect for a ship to park in its rivers estuary to make money, it was just a matter of time.
Ronan used events to his advantage and good on him. The part he plays is whether anyone would have had the guts to carry on after 67. Then again I believe it was Phillip Solomon who took the gamble not our Irish friend. History books seem to say is that he was the one with the silver tongue that manipulated/persuaded others to the decent thing and fight for freedom, or chase the money, depending on your opinion,

Steve

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Thanks for that interesting information Steve.

I just wonder whether the enterprises you mention would have stood the test of time had Ronan not been around !!

One thing's for sure, he gave us a terrific era to look back on!

ORSON 

Orson Cart <...> said:
I just wonder whether the enterprises you mention would have stood the
test of time had Ronan not been around !!

One thing's for sure, he gave us a terrific era to look back on!

An interesting point, his contribution was huge and certainly one of the characters of a marvellous era. It's just a shame he has never wrote an autobiography. Not knowing the man personally I suppose I will never know why, happy to live with his own memories I suppose,

Steve

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On 10 Oct 2007 09:38:31 +0000, Trevor Mcilveen <...> wrote:

ANTHONY CANT <...> said:

Well there is a point in all this. In the 60s there was very little Radio. Us Anoraks in our short trousers were so happy to have the Pirate boys beaming out the great music and chat. It was so "special" and when the UK government closed our "special" thing down we all became anti BBC. We scanned the band for anything that wasn't BBC. only natural we are human and we don't like to be told what to do by anyone. its not in our culture. Now today there are thousands of radio stations from varoius different providers and platforms.. we have so much choice. But still we are looking for something different. "something special" maybe there is no such thing. but we think there is something out there we want. but we can't seem to get it.

maybe we are just waiting for something new. Cluture Free has become boring. personality radio has just not done it for us.

I must admit I have only just joined this discussion group and I see an "anti Caroline" bias from some people. Leave caroline alone. Its doing fine.
maybe its not how some of us would like it. but hey has it ever been…

I wish them all the best..

The whole point is that it's NOT Caroline it's a fake and a fraud!    

wELL THERE IS A POINT IN ALL THIS.Orson Cart <...> said:

In law a trespasser is defined as follows:

 “Someone who goes on the land without invitation of any sort and whose presence is either unknown to the proprietor or, if know, is practically objected to”

Robert Addie & Son (Collieries) Limited v. Dumbreck.

 
If the proprietor knows that a person is occupying his boat and has not practically objected to his presence, then the occupier is not a trespasser.

On the other hand if the proprietor doesn't know that his boat is being occupied then the occupier is a trespasser.

But it would be very odd if a proprietor had no knowledge of where his boat was from year to year. Surely, he might say, "where is my boat, who is paying for its upkeep, who is paying docking fees, who is insuring it, and does it represent a liability to anyone?

So legally, this doesn't add up. 

A genuine and responsible proprietor may not feel inclined to ignore its occupation by others because that could give rise to all sorts of legal complications.

AquaCity, Poprad. No.1 environment resort in the world!
The World Travel Awards 2007 reports on www.rti.fm in English and Slovak.

Eric

Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

If the proprietor knows that a person is occupying his boat and has not
practically objected to his presence, then the occupier is not a
trespasser.

A squatter?

A genuine and responsible proprietor may not feel inclined to ignore its
occupation by others because that could give rise to all sorts of legal
complications.

What if the trespassers / squatters are paying all the bills that would otherwise have to be paid by the owners? Thusly, all potential outgoings are being met by said interlopers, such that you've not got a thing to pay for the upkeep to your boat. Would you really want to shoo these people away and have to start putting your hand in your pocket?
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Christopher England <...> said:

Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

If the proprietor knows that a person is occupying his boat and has not
practically objected to his presence, then the occupier is not a
trespasser.

A squatter?

A genuine and responsible proprietor may not feel inclined to ignore its
occupation by others because that could give rise to all sorts of legal
complications.

What if the trespassers / squatters are paying all the bills that would
otherwise have to be paid by the owners? Thusly, all potential
outgoings are being met by said interlopers, such that you've not got a
thing to pay for the upkeep to your boat. Would you really want to shoo
these people away and have to start putting your hand in your pocket?
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* Christopher England just said that *

From an economic rational viewpoint you are quite right, but from a legal viewpoint it's full of risk.

Eric Tesug <...> said:

AquaCity, Poprad. No.1 environment resort in the world!
The World Travel Awards 2007 reports on www.rti.fm in English and Slovak.

Eric

Website doesn't seem to indicate how to get there. It's looks like a long drive. But I could be tempted.

Well done! 

Christopher England <...> said:

What if the trespassers / squatters are paying all the bills that would
otherwise have to be paid by the owners? Thusly, all potential
outgoings are being met by said interlopers, such that you've not got a
thing to pay for the upkeep to your boat. Would you really want to shoo
these people away and have to start putting your hand in your pocket?

Does not a squatter have a claim on the property after about 12 years?

Hallo everyone. From 20 October every Saturday the web-station Radio Mi Amigo will broadcast on KBC on 1386 kHz AM from 10 PM till 11 PM BST. See the website http://www.radiomiamigo.eu/kbc.html
Greetings of Nico from Gouda, the Netherlands.

Q_1_2_3_4_5_6 <...> said:
Hallo everyone. From 20 October every Saturday the web-station Radio Mi
Amigo will broadcast on KBC on 1386 kHz AM from 10 PM till 11 PM BST.
See the website
http://www.radiomiamigo.eu/kbc.html
Greetings of Nico from Gouda, the Netherlands.

Correction: This programma will be every TWO weeks on a Saturday instead of EVERY week! Nico.

Stephen Sullivan <...> said:

An interesting point, his contribution was huge and certainly one of the characters of a marvellous era. It's just a shame he has never wrote an autobiography.

Which contribution are we talking about? You have to admire him for doing nearly all of it with other people's money.

Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

From an economic rational viewpoint you are quite right, but from a
legal viewpoint it's full of risk.

You are talking about the same people who originally put their money into the ship in order that it could broadcast without a licence and provide a non-taxable income, so I'm guessing they pick economics over legality.
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