Tuesday, 31 July 2007
In article <...>, ... (Steve Martin) wrote:
It has given me plenty of enjoyment, and I have also met some very
interesting characters. I haven't made anything financially out of
it but it has got me into a couple of gigs for free!
As in the Offshore variety – well it's got me into trouble with my boss at B.T./GPO.
I have bumped into some nice people who started on offshore and only last Saturday gave a nice potential job to one of them.
So from that point of view it's good.
As to financial rewards from the topic, what are they :-)
Eric
The Boards of Sky and Amstrad are pleased to announce that they have agreed the terms of a recommended cash offer to be made by Sky Digital Supplies, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sky, for the entire issued and to be issued share capital of Amstrad.
The Offer is 150 pence in cash for each Amstrad Share, valuing the entire issued share capital of Amstrad at approximately £125.0 million.
In article <8...>, ... (Christopher England) wrote:
Quoting a previous Steve Martin contribution:-
Fot the half hour
that I was listening it seemed all over the place, or is that
supposed to be the attraction?I think so.
Talking of being all over the place, I made a mistake of hitting the wrong button this morning on the satellite box. I continued to listen for a while.
There was a guy doing the news in a tone that indicated he had just been robbed – then the music was preceded by an upbeat ident. Odd.
Then I turned to another national station which had, albeit a turn off for me, three tracks all of very different styles – again all over the place.
Another station was obviously being directed by a computer and sounded like it was – the music was certainly all in place, but SO BORING!
Oh well
Eric
I got my first walkie talkies in the 60s as a boy from Stevenson's Corner in Birmingham. This were nasty little single frequency 27MHz sets that could achieve a mile under line of sight conditions.
I've just bought a pair via ebay of UHF five watt walkie talkies for £69. We had a good look at the build quality at work, and were quite surprised. This would have cost ten times that much a couple of years ago.
It's a strange decision for a service company to in-source design and build.
Most companies would move towards outsourcing.
It now seems that Sky is seeking to build a complete supply chain covering service, operational and design activities.
What is its rationale? Is it to lock out the competition?
Eric Wiltsher wrote:
Talking of being all over the place, I made a mistake of hitting the
wrong button this morning on the satellite box. I continued to listen for
a while.
As they are your personal opinions of the stations, why not tell us which ones they were.
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Christopher England said:
I think pirate radio does a heck of a lot more now than it ever did. Land based pirates certainly now have proper audiences, not just anoraks, and there is a considerable progression from pirate radio into legal radio or the music business for those 'employed' on them.
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Chris
I presume from your statement that you are only making reference to land-based pirate radio not offshore?
John
For me it was adventure, excitement and fun all wrapped up in one.
It wasn't so much the ideals but more the thrills that attracted me, particularly the land based pirates of the early 70s in London and the south east.
If I had a time machine I think I'd love to re-visit 1973 as that was such a great year for both offshore and land based pirates. I was thirteen but the impact of it has stuck with me forever.
What has pirate radio done for me? It's given me a bizarre interest that is kind of unique and was sometimes a bit hazardous.
Would I do it now (transmitters, treetops and copper-wire) not here as nobody would listen but if I were somewhere in the UK or Europe then who knows.
In article <46...>, ... (Martin Rosen) wrote:
Eric Wiltsher wrote:
Talking of being all over the place, I made a mistake of hitting
the
wrong button this morning on the satellite box. I continued to
listen for
a while.As they are your personal opinions of the stations, why not tell us
which ones they were.
That wouldn't be professional Martin. However, as there is a bent towards the 'It's All Over The Place' on here I wonder if ANers are getting closer or further away from the main-stream listener?
Eric
In article <...>, 2@slewis.biz (Sterling Times) wrote:
It's a strange decision for a service company to in-source design
and build.Most companies would move towards outsourcing.
It now seems that Sky is seeking to build a complete supply chain
covering service, operational and design activities.What is its rationale? Is it to lock out the competition?
I dunno. But locking-out wouldn't be an option due to the raft of controls in place, so no. Might be a development/manufacturing thing in that it's cheaper to buy that build such a business centre.
Eric
Ofcom has today fined Islam Channel Ltd £30,000 for breaches of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code.
Islam Channel Ltd was fined for allowing candidates standing in UK elections to act as presenters on some of its programmes during an election period and for failing to comply with due impartiality requirements.
Specifically, Ofcom has found Islam Channel Ltd in breach of the following:
– Section Five: Due Impartiality and Due Accuracy and Undue Prominence of Views and Opinions (specifically: rules 5.5 and 5.12);
– Section Six: Elections and Referendums (specifically: rules 6.6, 6.8 and 6.9) and;
– Licence Condition 11, for failing to supply a copy of a recording for examination.
The full Adjudication is available at: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/obb/ocsc_adjud/islamchannel.pdf
Hallo everyone. Because this night a new month begins (August) it is possible that both Arrow 675 kHz AM and Radio 10 Gold 1008 kHz AM will have their "final hour" both from 10 PM till 11 PM BST tonight. So listen (carefully) to both radiostations and if you wish you can of course "tapen" the programmes of both radiostations for to listen again later on. If this appears: then the 675 kHz will be switched off by Arrow and on the 1008 kHz you can then after 11 PM tonight BST hear a religious radiostation called "Grootnieuwsradio" with non-stop music till about the end of November this year, thereafter with Dutch spoken and perhaps also English and other languagues spoken "talk"-programs. Greetings of Nico from Gouda, the Netherlands.
Hi all,
Does anyone have a complete recording(including music) of the final Radio London Fab 40 presented by Tommy Vance and broadcast on Sunday 6 August 1967, please? Pirate BBC Essex is hoping to broadcast all the tracks featured in the programme, but two of them are proving hard to find. They are "King of the World" by Quik and Back in Memphis by Chuck Berry. Any offers of help would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Jonathan
Quoting Christopher England
There might be (a link between human activity and climate change). >However, the minuscule percentage of those emissions
that are due to humans or their actions, compared to the natural
emissions from this here living breathing planet, surely mean that it
ain't really our fault (although it might be our problem).
The problem, as I understand it, is that over millions of years, our ‘living breathing planet’ has (barring cataclysmic events like volcano eruptions, meteor strikes or sudden test tones on medium wave) somehow balanced these natural carbon emissions (from rocks or organic matter breakdown or whatever) with natural absorbtion (by the sea or rainforests for example). So there’s been a kind of equilibrium thingy as you rightly point out of these enormous volumes of carbon. The problem therefore lies with sudden increases in human induced emissions which, yes are tiny by comparison, but just enough to upset the equilibrium and potentially trigger much larger volumes of carbon release. This is because the 0.63deg C rise since 1950, linked to human activity has already been enough to begin to melt perma- frost which, if it continues would mean a massive, sudden rise in carbon emissions and the far more dangerous methane. It is also thought that our effect on climate is also a threat to rain patterns in the Amazon Basin which, if the forest dies as currently predicted by some, will mean enough carbon suddenly released (and it could be as soon as 2070) to raise the average global temp by 11 degC. That would be it basically.
As for 'climate change', I'm not actually convinced that the climate is
doing much more than its standard 'long wave' cyclic thang.
Ha Ha – you have fallen into my trap at last. I knew I could get you to talk about ‘long wave’ eventually!
There's evidence that we are seeing a sudden unpredicted spike (but then, >when
have 'we' ever been any good at actually predicting anything?) which may
be attributed to the 'odd' (although our knowledge is limited so how can
we be so sure it's 'odd'?) increase in sunspot activity we have been
experiencing for a while.
Quite true. Nothing is proven. I only take the information that seems to have the support of the majority of the scientific community. That growing consensus, from leading peer reviewed scientists (or ‘Top Boffins’ as Viz magazine calls them) with no hidden agenda that I can figure out. I believe that it is quite possible, though increasingly unlikely I’m afraid that you are right. If that makes sense.
Yet, our biggest problem that we have to address, surely, is why we
desperately and obsessively 'want' to believe we are on the edge of
Armageddon. Let's face it, between us we have spent all our
intellectual life as a species desperate for doom and gloom and the end
of life itself. This needs to be addressed.
I can’t answer that one. I’d be quite happy to believe we weren’t on the edge of Armageddon to be honest! I don’t think climate science suggests Armageddon anyway, (at least not in the short-medium term) just a gradual (in human timescales) reduction in quality of life, things to eat, water quality, biodiversity etc. I think an even bigger problem is ridding the human race of that faulty gene that makes too many of them susceptible to religious belief, and therefore vulnerable to all the medi-evil hocus pocus that faiths of all kinds around the world still insist on inflicting upon us. The belief that ‘don’t worry folks, we’ll be fine in the end cos god will sort things out’ for example, a la Dubbya and his idiotic chronies is perhaps the most dangerous one of all.
In context though, surely there's nothing there historically apart from
natural evolution, the way it's always been. The whole concept works by
species coming and going and others adapting to whatever local, regional
or global environmental changes are affecting them. The whole thing is,
erm, organic. Species develop, spend some time existing, then get wiped
out, and that's the way it is, and the way it's meant to be. Who's to say that >when we obsessively try to protect species or slow
change that actually we aren't acting very irresponsibly and
dangerously, the complete reverse to what we believe? If, in the bigger
picture, species are designed to come and go, and we are stopping them
from 'going', then surely we are meddling in something we don't actually
understand?
Its true species come and go. And your point about human intervention is a good one and needs serious research. From what I gather though it is the pace of these changes that are the biggest threat. The changes what you describe have happened over millennia. We are now talking about such changes over decades, this is, I believe unprecedented. We all have our own anecdotal evidence. As a child, I used to measure snow fall frequency and depths, the sad little git that I was. I still have my old charts and not one winter went by between 1977 and around 1985 (when I decided that chasing loose women was far more enjoyable than measuring precipitation) without at least a 3 inch snowfall and on several occasions, falls of between 6 and 8 inches occurred. In 1981 I think it was, the temperature dropped to 16 deg F (that’s 16 deg F below freezing, I think that’s around 9 below in deg C). That was in London- can you imagine 6 inches of snow falling regularly in London now? Purely unscientific I know and impossible to attribute to climate change but it concurs with evidence elsewhere of a warming trend.
Its bloody complicated stuff frankly, and it will be interesting to see how things pan out in the next few years. Many argue its already too late and we’re already doomed. I’m not sure I’d go that far, but we should begin to act soon on this. Now, how do we get back to the world of wireless from here?!!
Quoting a previous Jay BS contribution:-
I presume from your statement that you are only making reference to
land-based pirate radio not offshore?
Correct.
I don't recall anybody who wasn't in offshore radio in the 1960s making it big to the point where non-anoraks have heard of them today.
Compare and contrast most of the current guys on national radio, or indeed, in the national charts. Almost all have a piratical heritage of the land-based nature. And I'd suggest they outnumber those who came from ships considerably.
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Christopher England wrote:
I don't recall anybody who wasn't in offshore radio in the 1960s making
it big to the point where non-anoraks have heard of them today.
David Jacobs, Pete Murray, "Fluff" Freeman, Jimmy Saville, Brian Matthew, Terry Wogan. Maybe they are (with the obvious exception of "Fluff") walking around with zimmer frames, but I believe non-anoraks will have heard of them.
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Quoting a previous Martin Rosen contribution:-
David Jacobs, Pete Murray, "Fluff" Freeman, Jimmy Saville, Brian
Matthew, Terry Wogan. Maybe they are (with the obvious exception of
"Fluff") walking around with zimmer frames, but I believe non-anoraks
will have heard of them.
My bad wording has you misunderstanding what I was saying, sorry.
What I meant was that offshore radio post-1960s didn't really bring us any household names. All the offshore radio heritage comes from the 60s, and no other subsequent era, despite there being offshore radio up to 1989.
I mean that that compares to the land-based pirate heritage that comes more so from the 1990s and 2000s than it does from previous eras.
Hope that makes sense this time.
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