Saturday, 13 January 2007

So it isn't the only one then, as I said. Norderney
also served the UK for a brief period.

--- Alex Jenkins <...>
The only other is a rotting hulk in the Orkney isles http://www.orkneycommunities.co.uk/imagelibrary/picture/number1710.asp
, she is a sad shadow of her former self . The other
radio ships did not serve the UK.

gloworm558 . <...> said:
Really nice piece on tonight's BBC local TV programme for the North of
England, on Radio Caroline (Inside Out I think it was called).
Unusually for the Beeb they included much footage of Caroline in the
80's rather than the 60's (including Johnnie Lewis). PM was also
interviewed. I wondered if anyone else caught the programme?

Yes saw it, I was alerted by a e-mail from a friend and i agree it was well made and even included footage of the Ross on the Goodwin Sands which i dont remember seeing before,

Unlike the last effort where you had Tony Blackburn and Keith Skues pretending the Ross was the same Caroline ship they were on in the 60's Rick gave a honest
 potted history of the station which included the MiAmigo sinking etc, Peter Moore even came over very well,

The only thing a bit misleading was the fact if you didn't know better it gave the impression that Caroline was the only Offshore station ever and non of the others even got a mention,

Thank goodness for Sky where you can watch BBC regional programmes even when you live miles outside of of the area.

Richard

Steve Martin <...> said:

Didn't somebody do a "squeeky" on BBC Pirate Essex back in 2004?

Yes, I recorded that. It was a squeeky.

That will teach them to use analogue FM for the link.

gloworm558 . <...> said:

Something lost in the translation here Perhaps? Maybe its one of those
'well you had to be there' type funny things cos to me, it doesn't come
across on here as that rib- ticklingly funny. Is it a London humour
thing?

I thought not that good either.

The youth of today just don't know how to get up to real anorakish tricks and how to plan a "military" operation (-:

It's always more fun with RF.

Steve Martin wrote:
: From: "Martin Rosen" <...>
:: www.adamfi.co.uk/NF_Pradeep_11_Jan_07.mp3

:: Basically this person, or others come onto a programme on LBC 97.3
:: talk about something sensible and then launch into "Pradeep".
:
: Haha! Really childish but funny!

That link doesn't work here, but I assume its a bit like one of those who phones up Pete Price pretending to be talking about serious issues, then suddenly calls him a puff.
Or perhaps a better example would be Talksport with James Whale and GANJAMAN!

Yes saw it, I was alerted by a e-mail from a friend and i agree it was
well made and even included footage of the Ross on the Goodwin Sands
which i dont remember seeing before,

Unlike the last effort where you had Tony Blackburn and Keith Skues
pretending the Ross was the same Caroline ship they were on in the 60's
Rick gave a honest
potted history of the station which included the MiAmigo sinking etc,
Peter Moore even came over very well,

The only thing a bit misleading was the fact if you didn't know better
it gave the impression that Caroline was the only Offshore station ever
and non of the others even got a mention,

Thank goodness for Sky where you can watch BBC regional programmes even
when you live miles outside of of the area.

Richard

I'm sorry I missed it – I wonder if the Beeb will make it available to watch again over the net. Don't mean to be too picky, but the fact that you can watch all the BBC regions has nothing to do with Sky.

Regards – Tim

Sterling Times <2@slewis.biz> said:
I had previous encoded this documentary from the BBC in Emblaze Audio.
Since more recent Java software doesn't support Emblaze, I have now
re-encoded following several requests as an MP3 file for streaming.

It's here if you want to listen.

"The First Pirate" – the story of Captain L.F. Plugge and Radio Normandy

(about 30 minutes of audio).

http://www.sterlingtimes.org/plugge.m3u

Thanks for that – I live fairly close to Fécamp where the transmission site was. I've a book with photos of the area in the lead up to WW2 and there's quite a few of the masts, before the Germans blew one of them up. At least I think it was the Germans, I'll have to check. It could have been the RAF in one of their raids. Thanks again – Tim

Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

~

I do find it odd that so many "free radio" proponents support the
regulation of programming and radio.

I suppose it depends what the definition of 'free radio' actually is. If it means a complete free-for-all then that's actually quite bad, because only the bullies and those with heavy muscle power or high finance will only ever win in a real free-for-all, so the 'little man' or 'new idea' loses out. A bit like in the pirate radio world.

If, however, 'free radio' means freedom to produce whatever format you want, then isn't that also similar to the above? Every radio station putting out more or less exactly the same type of programming, chasing the same majority audience, and no smaller specialist interest audiences being served.

So maybe I am putting the case for a certain level of regulation down to the format – or target brief of the station – in order to ensure we don't have a thousand radio stations all doing the same thing. As it is, on my DAB receiver here I don't have loads of stations all doing the same thing. I have far greater choice of a variety of completely different and differing formats. Now, that's a good thing I suppose. But is it like that because it is regulated and monitored, and would it have ended up like that if it was a free-for-all?

~

Why should radio be any more regulated than the internet?

If it has to be (and I'm slightly confused on whether or not it should), then it is because there's a finite (and small) number of frequencies available. The Internet, however, is in theory unlimited.

Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

~

I have never come across this. I presume that it's something akin to the
"squeeky" in amateur radio.

The difference being it is not intended to bully or destroy, whilst the squeeky has a mission to jam repeaters and get over the top of sensible users.

A Pradeeper is more like a streaker during the interval at a cricket match.

Quoting a previous gloworm558 . contribution:-

~

Maybe its one of those
'well you had to be there' type funny things cos to me, it doesn't come
across on here as that rib- ticklingly funny. Is it a London humour
thing?

It's nationwide. I guess it's a talking radio thing, rather than a London thing. Iain Lee (who as we know fears Christopher England) is now the focal point for this encouraging this during his Sunday night Triple M show (a show where calls are not vetted but just put straight to air, sometimes multiple lines at a time), although it's always been there, but far more focussed, as talking radio continues its rapid moves into a new era away from the original rather tedious concept of a host spewing out topics for people to call in about.

I suggest a gentle course on how this all works. Firstly, Monday to Friday, listen to LBC between 7pm and 10pm (you can carry on through to 1am as well if you like), then once you've got it, try the hard stuff: Sunday night 10pm to 1am.

Quoting a previous Martin Rosen contribution:-

~

Can this really be true? Does he fear that you will try and do "a
Pradeep" with Englaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand ?, or do you have something else
that he fears?

There are many aspects about Christopher England that Iain Lee fears. I think there might be a TV programme about it soon.

I think that I should have spelled this "squeaky".

Christopher England <...> said:

A Pradeeper is more like a streaker during the interval at a cricket
match.

Probably, the most proficient "squeaky" is an expert in the art of "wind-up". His reward is the degree of upset that he causes.

It seems that the "pradeeper" is looking to be the centre of attention.Clearly, for him a "pradeep" is a major achievement. He will love to be patted on the back and be told, "that was a wonderful pradeep you did last night".

The "squeaky" may prefer to reamin anonymous whereas the "pradeeper" is a real extrovert.

smellofdiesel Tim <...> said:

Thanks for that – I live fairly close to Fécamp where the transmission
site was. I've a book with photos of the area in the lead up to WW2 and
there's quite a few of the masts, before the Germans blew one of them
up. At least I think it was the Germans, I'll have to check. It could
have been the RAF in one of their raids.
Thanks again – Tim

Excellent, Tim.

Everyone enjoys this documentary.

It was indeed the Nazis.

There's a photo of the destroyed masts on the Radio Normandy site.

I will try to find this.

Christopher England wrote:
There are many aspects about Christopher England that Iain Lee fears. I
think there might be a TV programme about it soon.

Just hope it doesn't go onto one of those adult channels .. my wife won't let me watch them ;-)
—

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Martin Rosen

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Here is the reference source for the Nazi's blowing up of Radio Normandy.

The manor was seemingly bombed by the allies 

http://www.offshoreechos.com/radionormandie/RadioNormandy01.htm

The pylon on the ground: showing the china base that acted as the insulator. The Germans placed a mine on one of the three guide wires.

Christopher England <...> said:

If it has to be (and I'm slightly confused on whether or not it should),
then it is because there's a finite (and small) number of frequencies
available. The Internet, however, is in theory unlimited.

 

I think, Christopher that we have a difference of opinion.

The little man has excelled in the blogosphere where he has been able to challenge the mainstream media.

I want radio to be something more like the blogosphere and less like the broadcasting oligopolies that thrive today.

Sadly, I see that the internet will be far more regulated in the future. We cannot, after all have people freely broadcasting their view in the public domain, can we?

Therefore, I'm a proponent of reducing radically the regulation in radio.

Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

~

Probably, the most proficient "squeaky" is an expert in the art of
"wind-up". His reward is the degree of upset that he causes.

It seems that the "pradeeper" is looking to be the centre of
attention.Clearly, for him a "pradeep" is a major achievement. He will
love to be patted on the back and be told, "that was a wonderful pradeep
you did last night".

So, in consideration, similar to a 'streaker' as I suggested, I guess?

The point being that 'Pradeepers' go out and, er, 'pradeep', and then report back about their success to Iain Lee, but they are usually contributors to his show using a pseudonym in the first place, so the real them does remain anonymous.

Iain lee even Pradeeeeped Vernon Kay on a live 'Just the Two of Us' on BBC1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey4XzRQl9Qw

Interesting point about Iain Lee (apart from the fact that he fears Christopher England) is that he does a very interesting cross-over radio show, which carries on (in text, obviously) via MySpace and also his own forums and websites. He is not just limited to radio only.

http://www.myspace.com/therealiainlee

http://www.iainleeforum.com

In fact, if you go to Youtube.com and enter various searches for Iain Lee, LBC, Pradeep, etc., you'll find a fascinating wealth of material.

It's particularly interesting watching the contributions from this lady who videos herself pradeeping LBC. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=knickersarepants

There was never this sort of stuff back in Tony Blackburn's days, y'know.