Sunday, 17 December 2006

Christopher England wrote:
: I hope you use all the proper language, the 'txt spk'.
:
: Actually. Can I admit to being a bit anal about this. Maybe this is
: the first sign of old age (I am almost 20, after all). I refuse to
: use text speak. It doesn't matter how much longer it takes, I use all
: the proper words, proper English.

Hmm, shouldn't there have been a question mark and a semicolon in the above paragraph?
Correct punctuation is also a part of proper English like wot I speak.
:
: Oh dear, what have I admitted to.

I'm totally with you on this one. There's an entire generation growing up thinking that "Do You know what I think?" is spelled as "u no wot i fink".

Christopher England wrote:

: What a dump that place is. Bloody light from this huge stick thing
: that advertises Radio City constantly in yer face when you're trying
: to sleep.

They really should have the decency to turn off those lights at night. But I guess they need the advertising due to their poor output.

:: My car radio has FM/AM, as do all the other radios in my home. If I
:: wanted to listen to poor 64kbps mono audio, I could do that online
:: without investing in a soon-to-be-obsolete DAB radio.
:
: Isn't this a bit like a person who refuses to go digital with his TV
: complaining that he's only got 5 channels?

Pah, That newfangled digital TV? It'll never take off, son. Gimme good ole' 405 lines back.
Seriously though, is it untrue that all current DAB radio sets will be completely useless in a few years due to better streaming technology such as AAC+2?

: A tenner a month is cheaper than a lot of fixed broadband.

A tenner a month for unlimited streaming with no hidden extras?
Url for that deal please, Christopher?

: Quote

Gah! why do you keep typing "Quote" when the quote attribution markers in this email should be correct? I use a neat freeware thing that fixes Outlook Express:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

:: The costs could be reduced if Government greed was reduced.
:
: It's a bit more complex than that. It's more about the advertisers and
: the lack of listeners. They are not so willing to pay through the nose
: to get such a low per head count. I mean, why pay to run an advert
: that only 20 people on average are listening to. It's cheaper to go
: round and tell 'em about yer product.

Yebbut if stations didn't have to pay so much to Ofcom coffers they could survive on much less advertising; henceforth there'd be many more stations catering for minority taste music which equals more listener choice, which would be a good thing, shirley?

WWW.OFFSHORERADIO.ORG
WWW.OFFSHORERADIO.ORG.UK

Radio Invicta

18–12–1964 10:00–10:10 Eddie Jerod * Tony Sliver 10:14 min

Radio City
 
18–12–1966 14:00–15:00 Auntie mable show – Paul Kramer * Adrian Love 61:30 min

18–12–1966 19:00–20:00 Aauntie mable hour – Paul Kramer * Adrian Love 60:50 min

Radio Veronica

18–12–1968 07:00–08:00 Ook goeden morge – Eddie Becker 54:05 min

Radio Caroline

18–12–1972 11:52–12:12 Test – Srispian St John * Jan Troost 20:27 min

Radio MiAmigo

18–12–1977 06:50–08:00 Ook goeden morgen – Herman de Graaf 70:27 min

18–12–1977 08:00–09:00 Cabaret – Stan Haag 60:10 min

18–12–1977 09:00–10:00 Nonstop * Radio Gemeente – Ds Toonvliet 62:40 min

18–12–1977 10:00–11:00 Belgische top 10 – Herman de Graaf 56:28 min

18–12–1977 11:00–12:00 Koffie met of zonder – Michelle 61:22 min

18–12–1977 12:00–13:00 Top 40 – Ferry Eden 59:01 min

18–12–1977 13:00–14:00 Top 40 – Ferry Eden 61:08 min

18–12–1977 14:00–15:00 Top 40 – Ferry Eden 60:39 min

18–12–1977 15:00–16:00 Muziek museum – Stan Haag 60:29 min

18–12–1977 16:00–17:00 Disco show – Herman de Graaf 60:42 min

18–12–1977 17:00–18:00 Disco show – Herman Graaf 60:38 min

18–12–1977 18:00–19:10 Jukebox – Stan Haag 69:51 min

Radio Caroline

18–12–1979 18:00–18:46 Div Religious programs 56:55 min

Radio Monique

18–12–1984 07:00–09:00 Ad Robberts 128:15 min

Laser 558

18–12–1984 07:05–07:30 Rick Harris 24:14 min

18–12–194 09:36–09:51 Holy Michaels (?) 15:52 min

WNKR on 1476 today, Sunday last test before the xmas broadcast.
That will take place from Sunday 24th till hopefully Tuesday 26th.
All new progs with at least 5 presenters.
Streams will be up and running on the days, more info later.

dave.

Christopher England <...> said:
Disappointingly my extremely heavy fine for operating

in pirate stylee is now long 'spent' and would only appear or need to be

declared if I had to have an Advanced CRB check (upon which no
conviction is classed as 'spent' or undeclared).
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I wonder what happens about radio offences for which one is not charged, particularly those which are political. Is one logged somewhere as a potential undesirable?

http://www.shop.bt.com/invt/cay350

This seems like a good range for a phone. I presume that this is a DECT standard 'phone. Presumably, two would give an intercom range of up to 2 km. Now that's potentially a cheap method of legal duplex transmission.

Martin Rosen <...> said:

I only use my mobile for urgent calls, eg to my wife that I will be late

because of a business meeting; stuck in traffic (dating someone from the

office!). Or if I am staying away from home and want to contact
someone (hotel phones are even more expensive!). The only calls I get

is someone who wants to contact me urgently.

 building, I don't

receive a decent signal on the mobile. The office landline works
perefectly well.

I really don't want to watch tv/surf the web on a small screen.

Ditto, I rarely even take my mobile out with me or even turn it on. I only give my number to a very few select people.

At home I tend to use IM for contacting people. I personally
find the telephone one of the most annoying inventions ever
and would advocate the death penalty for those that use mobile phones
in public.

chris visser <...> said:

WWW.OFFSHORERADIO.ORG
WWW.OFFSHORERADIO.ORG.UK

Radio Invicta

18–12–1964 10:00–10:10 Eddie Jerod * Tony Sliver 10:14 min

Radio City
 
18–12–1966 14:00–15:00 Auntie mable show – Paul Kramer * Adrian Love 61:30 min

18–12–1966 19:00–20:00 Aauntie mable hour – Paul Kramer * Adrian Love 60:50 min

Radio Veronica

18–12–1968 07:00–08:00 Ook goeden morge – Eddie Becker 54:05 min

Radio Caroline

18–12–1972 11:52–12:12 Test – Srispian St John * Jan Troost 20:27 min

Radio MiAmigo

18–12–1977 06:50–08:00 Ook goeden morgen – Herman de Graaf 70:27 min

18–12–1977 08:00–09:00 Cabaret – Stan Haag 60:10 min

18–12–1977 09:00–10:00 Nonstop * Radio Gemeente – Ds Toonvliet 62:40 min

18–12–1977 10:00–11:00 Belgische top 10 – Herman de Graaf 56:28 min

18–12–1977 11:00–12:00 Koffie met of zonder – Michelle 61:22 min

18–12–1977 12:00–13:00 Top 40 – Ferry Eden 59:01 min

18–12–1977 13:00–14:00 Top 40 – Ferry Eden 61:08 min

18–12–1977 14:00–15:00 Top 40 – Ferry Eden 60:39 min

18–12–1977 15:00–16:00 Muziek museum – Stan Haag 60:29 min

18–12–1977 16:00–17:00 Disco show – Herman de Graaf 60:42 min

18–12–1977 17:00–18:00 Disco show – Herman Graaf 60:38 min

18–12–1977 18:00–19:10 Jukebox – Stan Haag 69:51 min

Radio Caroline

18–12–1979 18:00–18:46 Div Religious programs 56:55 min

Radio Monique

18–12–1984 07:00–09:00 Ad Robberts 128:15 min

Laser 558

18–12–1984 07:05–07:30 Rick Harris 24:14 min

18–12–194 09:36–09:51 Holy Michaels (?) 15:52 min

I saw Adrian Love mentioned on your contribution Chris. Having met him by chance on Bush Hill Park (Enfield)  railway station back in the sixties and knowing his dad vaguely I was interested when he entered show biz.

Now I hear he passed away some time ago - do you or anyone else know the circumstances? (I reckon he was an OK deejay)

Graham

On 17 Dec 2006 07:49:46 +0000, Steve Leyland <...> wrote:

A tenner a month for unlimited streaming with no hidden extras?
Url for that deal please, Christopher?

This is the 'web and walk' add on that you get with T mobile. Various different levels of 'fair use data' from 7.50 to 22.50. It's not unlimited, from 1GB/month to 10GB/month. Not bad value but not umlimited!

Geoff

Quoting a previous Steve Leyland contribution:-

Seriously though, is it untrue that all current DAB radio sets will be
completely useless in a few years due to better streaming technology
such as AAC+2?

I'd imagine they'll parallel run the existing system with an upgraded system (a bit like they ran AM duplications of things until people had bought into FM), but I suspect direct 'broadcast' one-way only radio will be outdated and owners of existing DAB radios will be moving on at the same speed as owners of FM radios.

A tenner a month for unlimited streaming with no hidden extras?
Url for that deal please, Christopher?

Well, as an example T-Mobile want £7.50 a month and are currently asking you don't use it too much for receiving streaming although they don't block it, but they've not attacked anybody I know including liccle ol' moi who uses it for that naughty thing. I suspect they're just covering themselves, innit.

: Quote

Gah! why do you keep typing "Quote" when the quote attribution markers
in this email should be correct?

The reason is because there's an annoying habit within Mailspaces where it jams the next bit of quoted text directly under anything you've added in reply, even though in the original you left nice line spaces to show logical separations in the discussion.

Yebbut if stations didn't have to pay so much to Ofcom coffers they
could survive on much less advertising; henceforth there'd be many more
stations catering for minority taste music which equals more listener
choice, which would be a good thing, shirley?

As a percentage of total costs, how much goes to Ofcom?
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Quoting a previous Geoff contribution:-

This is the 'web and walk' add on that you get with T mobile. Various
different levels of 'fair use data' from 7.50 to 22.50. It's not
unlimited, from 1GB/month to 10GB/month. Not bad value but not
umlimited!

But, you'd agree, exactly as I predicted and waxed lyrically about some while back. And, as with all my predictions, I was told it would never happen. I recall being offered a load of technical mumbo-jumbo as an explanation as to why it'd never happen.

Sigh. Where's my mirror? I need to look at meself and nod gently.
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Steve West <...> said:

Face facts, young Mr.England; most radio listeners are still on FM,
quite a
few are still listening to AM when content deserves.

Maybe in the Northern outreaches but in the South East most of us listen to DAB. Nobody would dream of listening to AM.

I don't have a telly-box, nor will I get one until the unfair licence fee is abolished.

The license fee is superb value for money, quality TV and Radio provided for a nominal sum. Compare this to the excessive charges made by Sky.
 

Speaking of which, how come "Freeview" doesn't get busted for trade description lies?

What lies ????

:: City tried a talk station years ago, it didn't work then and I don't
:: reckon it'll work now.

That is because the only subjects Merseysiders are interested in are Football, Perms, Shell Suits and Car Stealing.

:: Personally I think it is a disgrace that EMAP have gained yet another
:: licence in Liverpool, someone else should have been given a chance.

The more stations owned by the same company the more variety.
Multiple owners always results in everyone going for the same
lowest common denominator format.

Graham Jones wrote:

I saw Adrian Love mentioned on your contribution Chris.

Now I hear he passed away some time ago – do you or anyone else know
the circumstances? (I reckon he was an OK deejay)

He was an early presenter of Nightline on LBC in London.

He died in March 1999 after a collapsed lung. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/294449.stm
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On 17 Dec 2006 19:02:15 +0000, Lloyd Atkins <...> wrote:

Maybe in the Northern outreaches but in the South East most of us listen

to DAB. Nobody would dream of listening to AM.

The AM bit is true, I think you're probably right.

Most people who listen to radio listen to FM. DAB use is increasing
but is nowhere near FM even here in the SE. Why you persist in spreading this untruth I'll never know.

I don't have a telly-box, nor will I get one until the unfair licence
fee is abolished.

The license fee is superb value for money, quality TV and Radio provided
for
a nominal sum. Compare this to the excessive charges made by Sky.

Wow, I agree with you here... I must be dreaming.

The more stations owned by the same company the more variety.
Multiple owners always results in everyone going for the same
lowest common denominator format.

To a certain extent possibly, but you have to trust that those
companies will do the right thing and not just put on services that
make the most profit.

Geoff

Quoting a previous Lloyd Atkins contribution:-

and would advocate the death penalty for those that use mobile phones
in public.

Now then. I have studied this greatly as it one of those things that has me reaching for a baseball bat ready to stove offender's heads in. Whilst I mainly agree with you, I think you are wrong to advocate a blanket usage death penalty.

There are a few folks that can use them quietly and discretely, almost to the point that you are unaware that a phone conversation is in progress.

No, you see, it's not the use of mobiles that annoys. It's the LOUD use of mobiles. There are a large number of people who are unable to speak in moderate tones when on their mobile. Instead, they feel the need to shout and over-exaggerate every intonation that would normally pass unnoticed in a private non-mobile conversation.

One theory I have as to why this happens is the speaking-loud-with-headphones-on theory. This is that thing that I'm sure we've all tried, and only the techie-nerds know how to not fall into the trap with. You put headphones on, listening to a tune and talk to somebody else in the room. Without realising it you are shouting (or if you sing along, without realising it you are completely out of tune and very loud). You do this to compensate for the fact that you can't hear your own voice properly because of the volume of the music in the headphones, or the fact that they are cupping your ear and blocking sound from the outside getting in to your ear.

Years ago, BT before it was BT, created a method of stopping people shouting on the phone. They invented 'sidetone'. This being a little bit of the output of the microphone being fed directly to the earpiece, so that the user could hear themselves (more or less) as they would hear themselves if the earpiece wasn't over their ear.

So, it is my contention that there must be a problem with 'sidetone' in a lot of the mobiles. Now this could be because the arseholes using the phone have the receiver volume up so loud that it drowns out their own 'sidetone'. I've noticed that some of the sexy looking Motorolas actually don't even seem to have 'sidetone' when one has been passed to me to have a conversation on. Luckily, being a techie-nerd I remembered not to raise my voice.

Have I sussed it?

Anyway, my final thoughts on the matter: Anybody being loud and annoying and invading my head space with their stupid moronic conversations – and worse, their cackles of stupid annoying laughter – should be terminated with extreme prejudice.

I recall a good few years back and annoying tart screeching down her phone with "yeah, I know" and "hahahahaha. That's sooooooooooooo you." and a whole host of other things. After nearly 40 minutes of this a guy got up, snatched her phone and threw it up the carriage. Wrong I know, but there was a unanimous cheer from everybody else.
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Quoting a previous Geoff contribution:-

To a certain extent possibly, but you have to trust that those
companies will do the right thing and not just put on services that
make the most profit.

Surely the evidence is clear. Those wonderful folk at Chrysalis, perfect people at Emap, and god-like entities at GCap are doing the right thing in London. None of their services sound like any of the others they run, all nicely complementing each other.
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Quoting a previous Sterling Times contribution:-

I wonder what happens about radio offences for which one is not charged,
particularly those which are political. Is one logged somewhere as a
potential undesirable?

I'd assume that's all held by what colloquially are known as 'MI5' and 'MI6', and you can only get access to the actual details after 30 years.
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* Christopher England just said that *

Ed Stewart Sitting in for David Hamilton tomorrow 1–5 pm on Big L??

This news is on some other sites, If it is true? Welcome home Stewpot!!

Richard

Do radio anoraks watch a lot of telly-box?