Tuesday, 21 November 2006

Quoting a previous Graham Jones contribution:-

Now that's an interesting viewpoint and diametrically opposed surely to
recently published opinions from others on AN recently. I refer to those
who feel that the BNP (however nauseous and repugnant their views and
activities) should be allowed to speak.

In what way exactly is it diametrically opposed? I don't really see how (or indeed why) you are somehow connecting a discussion about pirate radio's rootsy talk shows for Black people compared to BBC London's non-rootsy talk shows for Black people, and bringing in the BNP?

I'm at a loss to follow any of your logic.

The middle class intellectuals
WILL be so miffed at being kicked into touch!!!

Again, I can't really follow what you are trying to say here. The simple fact is that BBC London's output for Blacks leans towards the middle class intellectual Blacks, centring on arty-fart content, whilst pirate radio output for Blacks is far more earthy and rooted in the street.

Graham (recent and active convert to LMHR)

How can you 'hate' something that's natural? Doesn't that make you as dangerous as the thing you elect to 'hate'?
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* Christopher England just said that *

Christopher England <...> said:

Quoting a previous Graham Jones contribution:-

Now that's an interesting viewpoint and diametrically opposed surely to
recently published opinions from others on AN recently. I refer to those
who feel that the BNP (however nauseous and repugnant their views and
activities) should be allowed to speak.

In what way exactly is it diametrically opposed? I don't really see how
(or indeed why) you are somehow connecting a discussion about pirate
radio's rootsy talk shows for Black people compared to BBC London's
non-rootsy talk shows for Black people, and bringing in the BNP?

I'm at a loss to follow any of your logic.

The middle class intellectuals
WILL be so miffed at being kicked into touch!!!

Again, I can't really follow what you are trying to say here. The
simple fact is that BBC London's output for Blacks leans towards the
middle class intellectual Blacks, centring on arty-fart content, whilst
pirate radio output for Blacks is far more earthy and rooted in the
street.

Graham (recent and active convert to LMHR)

How can you 'hate' something that's natural? Doesn't that make you as
dangerous as the thing you elect to 'hate'?
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* Christopher England just said that *

Although there was some logic in it Chris I must admit I misinterpreted what you said .... therefore I was wrong and admit it. My apologies .

As for LMHR all I can say is that I am disturbed by the coyness about racism shown by some on AN and elsewhere. It reminds me of a comment made by a colleague some time ago when his wife was individually nursed through a stroke.

A religious man, he was full of praise for the care given by the hospital but he he had a complaint ..... the key nurse involved was BLACK. This C of E sacristan's pig ignorance is one reason why I take the majority view of people when considering the evil of the BNP.

Graham

Quoting a previous Peter Really contribution:-

If I have a half a half-formed, ill-expressed, ignorant point of view, I
will normally only express it to my friends and those poor unfortunates
who happen to be within earshot. I do not immediately think of ringing a
radiostation and inflicting the general populace with it.

Ah, but there lies but two problems. Firstly most people do not consider that their views are half-formed, ill-expressed or ignorant. Regardless of how they've arrived, most people think they know what they are talking about, despite their views being so often very easily unpacked and deconstructed using a logical counter argument. It's even happened here on Anorak Nation; you present a person with perfectly accurate facts that disprove their gut-felt illogical assertions and you give them a set of questions and they will rant off on some illogical mumbo jumbo about how you are wrong or are a dissenter, need faith, or whatever. Then they'll try to punch you! You cannot teach the adamantly ignorant a thing. However...

Secondly, regardless of how wrong they are, what right have we to lord it over them and deny them airtime until they reach a certain level of logically formed understanding of the what's what that we have decided they should reach? Isn't that potentially dangerous, a sort of silencing of the unwashed?

It is possible that a phone-in topic might wind me up enough to break
down these natural barriers to exposing myself as a complete and utter
arse, and I might actually call-in. With the adrenalin pumping through
my veins, would I be cogent, make sense, have a single original thought?

I doubt it.

No but you would become fodder for the third element of a radio phone-in
– entertainment. Cruelly, listening to you huff, puff and badly stammer your point can be far more entertaining than the actual content of what you might be trying to say.

Why did Christopher find it so comment worthy? Was it the content, or
was it the sheer horror of hearing the audio equivalent of a road
accident slowly unfolding?

For me, as a person who is passionate about the concept of enabling communities to communicate (I can expand on what I mean by this if you ask!), I found it very exciting. There in front of my eyes, er, ears, was a community talking to itself and listening to itself. Nobody had to have attended a Media Studies course, or speak in DJ speak, or adhere to the standard vanilla format of legal radio. Instead, I witnessed people – ordinary people – talking to each other from the heart, sharing concepts and experiences, exchanging ideas and challenging perceptions. Even if what they were saying was half-baked, so what, at least (it appeared to me) they trusted each other. Gone was the spin and lies of the highly choreographed legal radio style of discussion. Instead, (it appeared to me) they would all take away from it something they could believe.

In a sense, radio had balls again instead of hiding behind magnolia wallpaper.
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* Christopher England just said that *

Quoting a previous Peter Really contribution:-

Can you name any speech which might
qualify, no matter how loosely, in your own terms, as a 'best' speech,
which has been delivered impromptu?

"This is the Mebo II, we are on fire. Mayday, mayday, mayday." (Etc.)

(I jest of course)
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* Christopher England just said that *

Quoting a previous Alan Milewczyk contribution:-

Sorry but I can't work out who said what in this thread…

The problem seems to be with Graham. His comments seem to re-embed within quoted text. Plus he doesn't trim out the irrelevant text from the previous poster. I can never find his bits! I think the problem is his mail client or something.
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* Christopher England just said that *

Quoting a previous Nicholas Mead contribution:-

Puts you ahead of me then – I can't work out who said
what in ANY thread. It all looks like gobbledygook.

Assuming you mean the presentation of email versions sent to you and not the verbiaged content, try going here:-

http://www.anoraknation.com/preferences/delivery/

and changing "Discussion message e-mail format" to plain. It works for me.
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* Christopher England just said that *

" It's even happened here on Anorak Nation; you present a person with perfectly accurate facts ......"

I think it's perfectly natural for us all to think we know the facts about something on which we hold long, well thought out views.

Problem is some people on here think they're never wrong and hold the intellectual high ground. It's laughable.

Graham

Christopher England <...> said:

Quoting a previous Alan Milewczyk contribution:-

Sorry but I can't work out who said what in this thread…

The problem seems to be with Graham. His comments seem to re-embed
within quoted text. Plus he doesn't trim out the irrelevant text from
the previous poster. I can never find his bits! I think the problem is
his mail client or something.
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* Christopher England just said that *

Ah Chris !!! You will see that my latest contribution has stuff trimmed out !!! I don't think we had that problem with the old system did we? Not too sure ... no doubt you will enlighten me (having said that I am delighted to be "the problem" as you may imagine !!!)

Graham  (I'm going to bed now - sweet dreams you all)

Quoting a previous Steve Martin contribution:-

I must say I found it quite entertaining to listen to, and educational
too, as it was a viewpoint from a different perspective to yer usual 5
Live/Talksport/LBC phone-ins.

In recent times I've found myself addicted to Al Jazeera TV (conveniently on 514 via Sky), especially their Listening Post programme. Getting a more realistic perspective on things in the international arena rather than the usual BBC / ITV / Sky News spin can be most refreshing and enlightening.

I'll try and catch more of this type of stuff, although it is quite hard
living outside the area.

I can't for the life of me remember the frequency, but Bless FM is the big one of the moment. Lots of 'laydies' locked into debate and discussion most days inbetween the RnB. The whole station has a very mild 'Christian' theme to it, and the saying of the word 'Bless' a number of times in each conversation is not just pushing the station name or making a call to a god, but is street slang for a number of things including the word 'sweet' or 'I agree' (also, strangely, an oral sex act on a female human, but I don't think they're referring to that when they say it).

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* Christopher England just said that *

Quoting a previous Oscar contribution:-

The presenter is Mikes Dickin who is always a brilliant target for
this sort of thing, but see if you can recognise the voice of the
caller!

He was trying to remember this url on Sunday too. You were listening to the Triple M weren't yer, Oscar!
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* Christopher England just said that *

Hello,

 Andy Burnham / Andy Parka / Joss Stick signing back in on the new system.

I received this message via another forum and thought of you aspiring offshore addicts as the dream of just needing enough money has come up several times:

Or dare I say IMIB :-)

Quoting a previous Graham Jones contribution:-

Problem is some people on here think they're never wrong and hold the
intellectual high ground. It's laughable.

Ah, but we're ALL guilty of that though, aren't we! But, hey, let's not try to get aggressive and personal about people we don't agree with otherwise we'll be as bad as them won't we?
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* Christopher England just said that *

Christopher England <...> said:

Quoting a previous Graham Jones contribution:-

Problem is some people on here think they're never wrong and hold the
intellectual high ground. It's laughable.

Ah, but we're ALL guilty of that though, aren't we! But, hey, let's not
try to get aggressive and personal about people we don't agree with
otherwise we'll be as bad as them won't we?
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* Christopher England just said that *

Absol-bloomin-lutely Chris, me especially. Problem is I'm posting stuff that is largely boring since the traffic on AN has slowed down. I hope folk will  soon get used to the new format and post some meaty stuff !!!

Graham

From: "P.N. BITNA" <...>

I've been compiling some playlists using crossfading on WMP. Does anyone
know how I can burn Cds/DVDs using this facility (It doesn't seem to be
covered in WMP "Help")

Graham

Not sure about WMP, but you can burn CD's with crossfading using Mixmeister. Load your playlist into Mixmeister using standard mixing (not beat mixing as I presume it is not a funky house mix ;-) Go to the top of the page click on file then scroll down to Create CD recordable.

Steve Martin <...> said:

From: "P.N. BITNA" <...>

I've been compiling some playlists using crossfading on WMP. Does anyone
know how I can burn Cds/DVDs using this facility (It doesn't seem to be
covered in WMP "Help")

Graham

Not sure about WMP, but you can burn CD's with crossfading using Mixmeister.
Load your playlist into Mixmeister using standard mixing (not beat mixing as
I presume it is not a funky house mix ;-) Go to the top of the page click on

Thanks Steve - much appreciated. I'll download Mixmeister and see how I get on.

Cheers

Graham

Steve Martin <...> said:

Not sure about WMP, but you can burn CD's with crossfading using
Mixmeister. Load your playlist into Mixmeister using standard mixing
(not beat mixing as I presume it is not a funky house mix ;-)

I'll second Mixmeister as an invaluable tool for creating good mixes and cross-fades. It's interface is rather like the multrack page of Audition/Cool Edit – and a doddle to use. I've used it about 3yrs, and it's worth every penny.

Regards,
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Charlie

From: "P.N. BITNA" <...>

Exactly what I was looking for Steve – brilliant – solves a load of
problems for a Xmas gig I'm doing!!!

Yep I think Mixmeister is a great piece of software.

Good luck with the gig.

Charlie Davy <...> said:

Steve Martin <...> said:

Not sure about WMP, but you can burn CD's with crossfading using
Mixmeister. Load your playlist into Mixmeister using standard mixing
(not beat mixing as I presume it is not a funky house mix ;-)

I'll second Mixmeister as an invaluable tool for creating good mixes and cross-fades. It's interface is rather like the multrack page of Audition/Cool Edit – and a doddle to use. I've used it about 3yrs, and it's worth every penny.

Regards,

 

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Charlie

 Ta Charlie